Politics....

Jotun · **Politics.... -** 05-14-2004, 09:03 PM

suck.

I'm really bored, so I figured I would start a thread bitching about how I hate politics. I feel all this government crap with wars and presidential elections are all crap. I can't stand them, I find politics to be the most boring subject. I dont care about economics, i dont care about the president, foreign relations, ANY of it. Those topics bore me and piss me off. Just because I dont care about all this doesnt make me Anti-American though.

I've been told im extremely mature for my age, but I'm not the government interactive kinda guy. Im more of the artsy, music loving, teenager. TV is eaten up by politics, the internet is eaten up, and its taken wayyy too far.

Well, lets not turn this into a flame war, lets hear your mature opinions.

Coleman · 05-14-2004, 09:07 PM

i think you are naive in saying that you don't care about politics. I think everyone should have an understanding about them because it will ultimately affect their lives dramatically. It's alright hating to hear politics 24/7. Maybe you do know about politics and just don't care to discuss them (you didn't specify...sorry if i'm wrong).

guarnere · 05-14-2004, 09:11 PM

[quote="Garry Coleman":94579]i think you are naive in saying that you don't care about politics. I think everyone should have an understanding about them because it will ultimately affect their lives dramatically. It's alright hating to hear politics 24/7. Maybe you do know about politics and just don't care to discuss them (you didn't specify...sorry if i'm wrong).[/quote:94579]

imported_Fluffy_Bunny · 05-14-2004, 09:14 PM

vote for me

Coleman · 05-14-2004, 09:15 PM

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":49e91]vote for me[/quote:49e91] happy: biggrin: oOo:

jujumantb · 05-14-2004, 09:18 PM

These baby boomer fuks are screwing over our generation. Who is gonna have to pay off all this war and defense spending? Who is probly never gonna see the SS $ we are paying in each of our paychecks? We all really need to get involved. And I really hope when you reach voting age (if you arent already) you DONT vote. I cant stand the people who vote for who they think is better looking or just because they are a "democrat" or "republican" know the issues and the politician's stance or else dont vote. If you let stupid people vote you get stupid government.

Coleman · 05-14-2004, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jujumantb

I cant stand the people who vote for who they think is better looking or just because they are a "democrat" or "republican" know the issues and the politician's stance or else dont vote. If you let stupid people vote you get stupid government.

can't agree with you anymore. I've also seen Highschool students always say, "I'm a hardcore Democrat" or "I'm a hardcore republican" when they have noooooo idea what they stand for. The worst one is always, "I'm alllll about the Green Party BABY!!!11111 We want to legalize marijuana!!!11"

TGB! · 05-14-2004, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jujumantb

These baby boomer fuks are screwing over our generation. Who is gonna have to pay off all this war and defense spending? Who is probly never gonna see the SS $ we are paying in each of our paychecks? We all really need to get involved. And I really hope when you reach voting age (if you arent already) you DONT vote. I cant stand the people who vote for who they think is better looking or just because they are a "democrat" or "republican" know the issues and the politician's stance or else dont vote. If you let stupid people vote you get stupid government.

Bullshit. Look up Americas GDP, and its production power. The bullshit "omg whos gonna pay for the war" is a liberal scare tactic. The only ones who can fuck up our econmoy (which is in recovery), is us. Meaning those of us on this forum right now. And quite frankly I'm more afraid of what you assholes are going to do in charge than my mother and her generation.

Bush isnt fucking up this government, Generation Y apathy will.

Old Reliable · **Re: Politics.... -** 05-14-2004, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jotun

suck.

I'm really bored, so I figured I would start a thread bitching about how I hate politics. I feel all this government crap with wars and presidential elections are all crap. I can't stand them, I find politics to be the most boring subject. I dont care about economics, i dont care about the president, foreign relations, ANY of it. Those topics bore me and piss me off. Just because I dont care about all this doesnt make me Anti-American though.

I've been told im extremely mature for my age, but I'm not the government interactive kinda guy. Im more of the artsy, music loving, teenager. TV is eaten up by politics, the internet is eaten up, and its taken wayyy too far.

Well, lets not turn this into a flame war, lets hear your mature opinions.

see: hippy

1080jibber · 05-14-2004, 09:55 PM

How can you not care about politic's, it's your future.

jujumantb · 05-14-2004, 09:58 PM

[quote="TGB!":1739b]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jujumantb

These baby boomer fuks are screwing over our generation. Who is gonna have to pay off all this war and defense spending? Who is probly never gonna see the SS $ we are paying in each of our paychecks? We all really need to get involved. And I really hope when you reach voting age (if you arent already) you DONT vote. I cant stand the people who vote for who they think is better looking or just because they are a "democrat" or "republican" know the issues and the politician's stance or else dont vote. If you let stupid people vote you get stupid government.

Bullshit. Look up Americas GDP, and its production power. The bullshit "omg whos gonna pay for the war" is a liberal scare tactic. The only ones who can fuck up our econmoy (which is in recovery), is us. Meaning those of us on this forum right now. And quite frankly I'm more afraid of what you assholes are going to do in charge than my mother and her generation.

Bush isnt fucking up this government, Generation Y apathy will.[/quote:1739b]
So who is gonna pay? and WTF does GDP have to do with it? Ya we make alot of stuff... and? Its not just the war, its everything your generation has decided to put on its credit card bill. IMO, we need major government reforms. A large leap over to the socialist side of things would be a good step. Our social programs to date suck period. People take advantage of them and they just dont work well. Maybe thats just the American idiology and a socialism hybrid will never work here. Scandinavia has it down. Props to them. BTW us assholes will screw you old guys over as much as possible biggrin:

jujumantb · 05-14-2004, 10:03 PM

Oh BTW, Bush going into Iraq wasnt a fuk-up to you? please.... Why didnt his dad do it? why arent they talking to eachother now? It was a stupid move. But its ok, youguys voted him in. Like I said, you let stupid people vote, you get stupid government. I'll never feel safe with a president I could beat in a spelling bee.

Short Hand · 05-14-2004, 10:04 PM

MAn I wish we had some sort of "good" adolf hitler take over the government. Then all the problems would go away.

TGB! · 05-14-2004, 10:04 PM

[quote:65015]So who is gonna pay? and WTF does GDP have to do with it? Ya we make alot of stuff... and? Its not just the war, its everything your generation has decided to put on its credit card bill. IMO, we need major government reforms. A large leap over to the socialist side of things would be a good step. Our social programs to date suck period. People take advantage of them and they just dont work well. Maybe thats just the American idiology and a socialism hybrid will never work here. Scandinavia has it down. Props to them. BTW us assholes will screw you old guys over as much as possible[/quote:65015]

I'm 23.

Americas social programs work, but they work too well. Thats the problem. It's far too easy to take advantage of. FDR started these program during the depression to get America out of its crash. But now these programs are used by minorities and immigrants who really do have it better than they did when they were in the old country. This isnt to say these programs are dominated by minorities (since its impossible with the caucassian to minority ratio), but a greater percentage of minorities are on welfare than whites.

Socialism doesnt work. America is as strong as it is, because of capatalism. Americans have the oppurtunity that they have because of capatalism. Show me a communist state that has worked? China. Sure if you like crushing government influence.

jujumantb · 05-14-2004, 10:09 PM

[quote="TGB!":865ff][quote:865ff]

Socialism doesnt work. America is as strong as it is, because of capatalism. Americans have the oppurtunity that they have because of capatalism. Show me a communist state that has worked? China. Sure if you like crushing government influence.[/quote:865ff][/quote:865ff]
* cough
excuse me!
where does this come from? That is TOTALLY baseless and dare I say it?, ignorant?

Take a look at scandanavian countries, Norway was recently ranked the best country in the world to live in. If you know anything, you would know they are very socialist influences up there. They are doing amazing! Anyways, the only way you may be correct is that our American mindset may not allow socialism to prosper, but it CERTAINLY can work and has worked and does work,