Realism Mods Destroyed the game for me - Page 2

Vassili · 03-03-2002, 02:08 AM

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Yes.

Vassili · 03-03-2002, 02:12 AM

Play on Saving Ryans Privates Server, CPR & FF

03-03-2002, 03:03 AM

None of the realism mods are tuned for gameplay. All of them make the MP44 overpowered and too accurate, making it difficult to choose any other weapon.

If you want a mod to inject a little realism into MOH, but still keep gameplay balanced, try this one.
[GLW]GenghisLAN MP Weapons Mod: http://mods.mohmatch.com/dl_manager/...on=file&id=139

I wrote it for my regular LAN party and we like it better than anything else out there.

The MP44 is still the best all-round weapon in the game, but not by much. You can kick ass with any weapon, provided you have skill and a little luck.

-Will

PS - Here's a bit from the readme file:
Description:
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This server-side mod changes the weapon settings for multiplayer MOH:AA. The
goal is to provide balanced gameplay with more powerful weapons. Weapon damage
has been increased, accuracy and movement modifiers adjusted.

GLW isn't strictly a "realism" mod, we've tried to add to the excellent WWII
feel of MOH:AA. The changes make combat more deadly, but the values were also
tweaked for gameplay and feel, not historical reality.

The main changes are these:

-rifles are more powerful
-automatic weapons are more powerful, slightly less accurate
-rockets and grenades are limited to 3
-player movement speed is up a few percent, except machineguns which are
down a touch

Hellbaby2065 · 03-03-2002, 03:08 AM

Sounds like a good mod Bitter, but I still attest to the power of rifles in CPR.

The M1 and 98k are deadly in the hands of a skilled player. Actually, players with machineguns get very overconfident and careless in my experience.

03-03-2002, 03:15 AM

HellBaby, download the mod (it's tiny) and check out the readme. You'll see the details on what I modified.

CPR was actually the inspiration for doing my own mod, I liked it so much. I also thought that the rifles needed more power.

The M1 is my favorite weapon to use, and I've seen good players kick ass with the Kar98, even with stock MOH.

Hellbaby2065 · 03-03-2002, 04:52 AM

Cool. Thanks Bitter, I will give it a shot.

03-03-2002, 05:36 AM

Guns too overpowered?

Tell me you are in a room with a 50 cal machine gun, and I have a dueling pistol from the 1800s. Who will survive?

The one who shoots first!

As an old man, 36, with many years of real military service I appreciate the realism mods. To me they are closer to my real world experience. Yes I enjoy classic FPS games like quake and CS, but they reward those that have quick reflexes and do not really work for those that like to plan and enact careful purposeful actions.

One of my greatest complaints on some servers is the fact that 1 person can rule a map because he has found that by running and hopping from spot to spot with 1 particular weapon he cannot be killed. This is not realistic and tends to annoy those of us that are looking for realism.

It is obivious that there are at least two types of players and I am thankful that there are serves that can please all of us.

Ydiss · 03-03-2002, 06:26 AM

Realism mods take a lot less skill to kill and a lot more to stay alive.

The funny thing is, a lot of people who are pro realism will say how they dislike the quake mentality of the game without realism when in the pure essence of it realism servers promote more reactions than much else on certain maps.

Take stalingrad, for example. I've watched a player own this map with the STG-44 simply because he had faster reactions than everyone else.

He didn't use cover, he just ran about getting frags like in any normal game, but because the map is so closed and claustrophobic he ripped everyone to shreads.

Now this is still skillful, but I can guarentee you he'd not be able to do that on non-CKR servers.

Realism doesn't promote any more skill and nor does non-realism. They're just different.

But I find it funny when pro-realism players complain about quake-style players. I find CKR makes the game much more reaction-based than normal mode, and less sneaky.

Why bother sneaking when the enemy only needs to see you a fraction of a second before you do to kill you?

Realistic? Maybe. Fun? Not for me.

I just avoid CKR/CPR servers. I prefer balance of gameplay over realism. Realism servers tear balance apart and make it so it's pointless using shotguns/rpgs and sniper rifles.

Variety is the spice of life

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03-03-2002, 06:50 AM

how many times would you like to be shot in the chest before you die? 5 or 6?

03-03-2002, 06:53 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Vassili:
You must be messed in the head to hate realism mods, then going into one, then complain about things like this^...Realism mods tend to make the game more like in REAL LIFE(lmao)... there are thousand of non-realism servers out there, so why go out of ur way to go into one, then come all the way to a forum and bitch about it????

the thought of ppl doing that just leaves me mind-fucked...*throws another violent fit*

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i DONT go outnof my way to find realism mods
i just notice that alot of servers are NOT posting that they are moded and and more and more of them continue to do this. I was using all seeing i one day and i switched servers 4 times in a row ( b/c i like low pings with lots of players) and all for were moded and none of them said that they were moded. Since i have been playing the number of realism moded servers is growing. I do like and if you have a problem with my preferences to bad. There are no laws that say i cant post a topic of my choice here so i will, and when i use all seeing i I dont GET THOUSANDS of Servers, i get about 50. ANd for me atleast 24 of those servers are moded and mostof them dont say they're moded

03-03-2002, 06:54 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Strik0r:
how many times would you like to be shot in the chest before you die? 5 or 6? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Befoer i die? 1 time
Before i die In A GAME? maybe 4 or 5

03-03-2002, 06:57 AM

i just have to say. Screw realism mods, never amount to real life.

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03-03-2002, 07:13 AM

Yeah, wreck it all, take a leaf out of the "worms" bible, holy hand grenades, exploding sheep, old womaan, lol, we could really mess up peoples games
im sure machine guns have got more powerful though and i see plenty of mods for this purpose...please dont let too many of these mods wreck the game........

Webb · 03-03-2002, 07:53 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by harry_potter_kid:
hi!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

WTF?

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03-03-2002, 08:58 AM

well i personally love it. and yes your kinda right on the everyone uses mg thing.
play them on obj based maps not tdms, they work much better since there no respawn xcept omaha.

tip 1. when using an smg up close try to move aroud the place move left,right,up,left it kinda confuses the other guy.
tip 2. always retreat then attack or let the guy fire all he likes then attack, it catches them by surprise i think.
tip 3. you only have 3 nades use them wiselu.
tip 4. know the map, this is a must
tip 5. when using kar its best you camp somewhere. m1 just be accurate.

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