[Merlin122]

Originally Posted by bukdez

who gives a fuck about Osama... we got Martha, thats the important one...

LOL

[draken_sd]

Originally Posted by Merlin122

LOL

beer:

[MrLevinstein]

[quote="Short Hand":d4c13]

Originally Posted by bukdez

who gives a fuck about Osama... we got Martha, thats the important one...

OMG BUT BUSH SAID LIKEM OSAMA WAS IMPORTANT !![/quote:d4c13]

Why the fuck are you still here cuntrag?

[Short Hand]

[quote=MrLevinstein]

Originally Posted by "Short Hand":3d5a8

OMG BUT BUSH SAID LIKEM OSAMA WAS IMPORTANT !!

Why the fuck are you still here cuntrag?[/quote:3d5a8]

I'm a cunt rag, thats why.

[Drew]

I think the choice, candidate-wise, really comes down to party voting this election year more than ever. I have problems - serious ones - with both candidates. So then it becomes a question of which one will actually serve the country better. Based on my personal beliefs, I believe that George Bush and the Republicans are the logical choice. Here is why:

1) Economics. Anyone with even a basic college education can tell you this. The Republican stance on the economy is simply better. Politics and all that aside, you'd be hard-pressed to find an economist who isn't working for the DNC that will tell you that the economy will improve under Kerry.

2) Morals. This is something that I always have and always will be firm on. This is also where I really get into party voting rather than candidate selection. I don't believe that either of the candidates posess a morally or ethically clean slate. I think that both are hypocritical. I think Bush is benefiting from his ties to big business. I think Kerry is whoring his very abbreviated service in Vietnam and cheapening the men and women who spent a year or more deployed there giving their lives for our nation. That being said, I believe that morals and ethics are strongly tied to Biblical principles. Now, before everyone goes, "OMFG U STOOPID BIBLE THUMPER HICK!!!11" - listen. First of all, I am a Christian and I am very proud to be one. I will very proudly tell you that being baptized was the single most significant event in my life thus far and finding my place in the Church has given me more purpose and direction than I've ever had. Now, when I reference Biblical principles, I mean the basic guidelines outlined therein. The laws, if you will. I think that we - as a nation - are becoming overly tolerant of very destructive lifestyles throughout our country. The traditional family is the foundation on which this nation was built. That is being torn apart by pre-marital births, gay marriage, etc. And I'm not getting in on the gay marriage debate, but you can't tell me that a child who grows up watching his father kiss another man or walks in on him taking it up the pooper isn't going to be screwed in the head. When more than 3/4ths of the country opposes something, yet it is made to seem as though those 3/4ths are the majority, there is a serious problem.

In summarization of number 2, the Republicans are very morally and ethically defined while I believe that the overtolerance and extreme political correctness championed by the Left is stripping the nation of any sort of moral compass.

3) National Defense/Security - I'm sorry, but when I hear Kerry talk about this sort of thing, I just have to laugh. He makes these outlandish promises about having every US soldier out of Iraq by the end of 2005, and then has absolutely NO firm stance on any other security/defense issue whatsoever. He hasn't even made his "proposal" for full withdrawl from Iraq public yet. Why? Because he doesn't have one. Ask any Logistics or Strategic Ops officer in any branch of service and they will tell you it's insane. Until the Iraqi police force is re-established and stable, as well as at least a minimal military force, there is no way we can withdrawl without sparking chaos and civil war. And there is no man on the face of this Earth who can train and implement local and federal policing agencies, and have them be stable and in control within a year. Not to mention an entire military.

In closing, if you look at their proposed expenditures, they're talking pretty much the same thing. I think by current estimates Kerry is talking about spending about 150 billion dollars more than the President (this number is less significant when you start talking about 3 trillion dollars). He also claims to be able to finance this by simply repealing tax cuts... that's a few hundred million if he's REAL lucky.

So yeah.

[ninty]

Originally Posted by Noctis

1) Economics. Anyone with even a basic college education can tell you this. The Republican stance on the economy is simply better. Politics and all that aside, you'd be hard-pressed to find an economist who isn't working for the DNC that will tell you that the economy will improve under Kerry.

Do you have links that say the economy under bush is better than under the clinton administration? Since we don't really know if kerry would improve the economy because it hasn't happened yet, all we can really do is compare republican to democrat stats. And i'd be interested to see the numbers from 2000 compared to 2004.

[Drew]

Originally Posted by ninty9

Do you have links that say the economy under bush is better than under the clinton administration? Since we don't really know if kerry would improve the economy because it hasn't happened yet, all we can really do is compare republican to democrat stats. And i'd be interested to see the numbers from 2000 compared to 2004.

That's a faulty argument, though. The economy began recession prior to George Bush even taking office. Artificially inflating the numbers in the economy with trade agreements like NAFTA and the 2000 agreement with China completely destabilized the economy. Bottom-line, economists are saying that repealing the tax cuts will shock the stock market and send us right back into a downward spiral rather than an upward one. But the problem is that Kerry wants to dump everything into socialist programs, programs which drink budgets for an afternoon shake and have little to no return.

[fujimi7su]

[quote="Bean 2":b09ad][quote="Sgt>Stackem":b09ad]I saw it too and it confirmed that I will vote for Bush, Kerry is a tool[/quote:b09ad]

And Bush isnt? Both candidates are terrible politicians who are controlled by their party. Even though Clinton was a horny bastard, I felt safe with him in power. Im gonna look at it like this; I'm choosing the lesser of two evils next election. I would vote for nadar but then I'd just be throwing my vote away. Ill most likely be voting for Kerry.[/quote:b09ad]
imwithstupid:

[Coleman]

I have respect for you if you want to "vote for the less evil candidate". Sure that's your decision...hopefully, you've had a background that's well versed to make that judgement. I HATE the people that will just vote for Kerry "because I can't stand the thought of having George W. Bush as President again."

[Coleman]

[sarcasm]I love how aa.com doesn't suck with glitches[/sarcasm]

[fujimi7su]

oOo:

you respect me a lot?

[strvs]

GO COLEMAN!!!!!

[Madmartagen]

wtf, lmao rock:

[Machette]

Originally Posted by Coleman

[sarcasm]I love how aa.com doesn't suck with glitches[/sarcasm]

rock:

[Coleman]

i think i have the right to call myself champ of consecutive post count if I'm not mistaken.