[c312]

^ yeah, my high school physics teacher talked to me about that artical and how everything is overhyped, aparently it's a really good book

[Short Hand]

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":6e9b3][quote="Short Hand":6e9b3]You claim Kyoto is nonsense because it is only there to stop Global Warming.. Bullshit. It was made up in order to deal with massive smog problems, maybe you do not live by a major smog center, but it effects your health and FUCKING LIFE EXPECTANCY !!!!. This is just as important as a fucking hole in the atmosphere, We need to stop polluting. Remember.. You breathe it in.[/quote:6e9b3]


as you say "FUCKING LIFE EXPECTANCY" has done nothing but rise since forever[/quote:6e9b3]

-Well.. YOU see, back hundreds of years ago and so on, people lived hard lives (labour intensive). This comparision is not relevent.

Originally Posted by Nyck

JFC you guys are still arguing over this a month later.

Read State of Fear by michael crichton It is exactly about this and how environmentalists are overblowing it all.

You should write a book, on how your fucking ass should stay in the offtopic forum. Posting ebaums for yourself to laugh at. eek:

[elstatec]

Originally Posted by c312

yeah, but that's only 140 years. There are graphs that show temperatures from much longer back that show a repeated increase and decrease in temperatures over decades

im waiting for you too post them then....

[c312]

they are in the link I posted earlier, maybe you should have read it

if you look at Fig.3, you'll see that it goes back to 1750, it shows a dramatic drop in temperature right before your graph picks up which would substantially alter the average temperature change... convenient

Also, look at the other graphs and actually read the paper, it has a lot of interesting points and data

[elstatec]

i have and if you all look at them you see that most of them do all start to spike up to high levels, plus most of these are 10 years old so are a. so out of date to todays current pollution levels and b. inaccurrate as one of the only charts that shows the opposite is of national US temperatures when the pollution caused in the US does not have to affect the US at all... convenient
http://www.workers.org/ww/2002/ecocide0829.php


Otherwise every chart in that shows a incline of natural resources, increase in co2 in atmosphere everything else not good to the enviroment, plus the charts themselves are very very general... convenient

[c312]

the purpose of the charts is to show that temperature fluctuates all the time, it's not a new thing for the temp to go up, it has happened many times before and it will happen many more times, it's just what happens.

and as for the dates of the charts, they end about 7 years ago. I don't think that 7 years if enough to do significant damage, especially because the years prior to that were years when people had little to no pollution regulations so I would think the most recent years would be better, and if they aren't, than it is probably not the US's fault, it is probably the fault of rapidly growing/expending economies like China, who has started to use more and more oil and emit more and more pollution.

[KTOG]

Why can't many of you accept the fact that pollution is bad and needs to be worked on? Yes it may not kill us right away, but its still not healthy for us and the enviorement to drive our 6346 cylinder SUV that gets .3 miles per gallon. Though there are studies out there that show changes in temperature and studies that show these changes to be normal ... don't be a fuck wad and destroy my enviroment.

[Machette]

Originally Posted by Nyck

JFC you guys are still arguing over this a month later.

Read State of Fear by michael crichton It is exactly about this and how environmentalists are overblowing it all.

This book along with the Da Vinci Code are in the fiction section for a reason... sleeping:

[Nyck]

Originally Posted by Machette

This book along with the Da Vinci Code are in the fiction section for a reason... sleeping:

Yes its fiction but has many facts on the issue, of course it will have some bias in it, but seriously

[elstatec]

Originally Posted by KTOG

Why can't many of you accept the fact that pollution is bad and needs to be worked on? Yes it may not kill us right away, but its still not healthy for us and the enviorement to drive our 6346 cylinder SUV that gets .3 miles per gallon. Though there are studies out there that show changes in temperature and studies that show these changes to be normal ... don't be a fuck wad and destroy my enviroment.

exactly.