[Tripper]

Originally Posted by imort

whoooa !! ya maori fuckin alcy...shut ya abo gob ya twat.. you may live in a lovely country...but i fucking don't..its full of undesirables..i.e. MUSLIMS

I live in probably one of the most multi-cultural parts of the world - You need to learn a thing or two about acceptance of others you ignorant fool.

[Short Hand]

He is most likely a troll Tripper.... You should not feed them. If no one responds to it, then it will feel like it is not getting the attention it needs to keep on with its behavior.

[elstatec]

Originally Posted by imort

whoooa !! ya maori fuckin alcy...shut ya abo gob ya twat.. you may live in a lovely country...but i fucking don't..its full of undesirables..i.e. MUSLIMS

brain cells = 0

[Eight Ace]

lol, well, you can't complain about the drama caused by these cartoon capers, like when they were published in an Egyptian paper last October

[url=http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/egypt-media-publishes-cartoons/2006/02/10/1139465819522.html:57714]LINK[/url:57714]

"An Egyptian newspaper published several of the cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed that have sparked outrage across the Muslim world,
Denmark's ambassador in Cairo, Bjarne Soerensen, has told Danish news agency Ritzau.
Six of the 12 cartoons of Mohammed, which first appeared in the Danish daily Jyllands-Posten last September,
were also published in the Egyptian newspaper Al Fagr on October 17 to illustrate an article criticising their initial publication."

good to see everone including muslims could handle it then...aww what went wrong in the meanwhile?...eek:


"Indonesia has cancelled badminton games against Denmark because of safety concerns over the cartoons."
Indonesia..their human rights record is amazing! cry:


"Mashasee, one of five Iranian vice presidents, repeated claims by Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that the riots were part of a Jewish conspiracy."

Iran, statics mum says "Why doesn't the whiney little cunt just pack up and move there, God knows I'm not stopping him." rock:

[Poseidon]

Originally Posted by imort

Last edited by imort on Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:36 am; edited 1 time in total

gg. Edit

[interox]

Originally Posted by Tripper

I don't think it was a smart move. If you want to make things worse and create far more tension - Then do what the europeans did and re-publish the images.

I mean, honestly, if you want to make a point about free speech regarding Islam, was this really the time to make it? I mean the relationship between the middle east and western society is pretty well fucked at the moment, and doing stuff like this at this point in time is making it really bad, and forcing a solid division.

I don't agree with the way they reacted, but then again, I see it as sort of childish to provoke in the way that these newspapers did, and I see it as just plain foolish to do it at this point in time....

What does it prove anyway? I mean it's obvious they have the right to exercise free speech - They don't live in dictatorships - The newspapers would allow them to print, and they know it. So what is the point? Just to spite muslims? Wow, that's a mature way to handle a very tender issue, during a very unstable time.

These people just need to look at the bigger picture - People are getting to involved in picking sides in this thing and not looking out for the greater good.

Another leftwing liberal nancy willing to pamper the fanatics. If anyone wants to print a cartoon depicting anything remotely religous so what? The islam religion is mass hysteria anyway so regardless of any sensible view the fanatics are going to go apeshit defending their faith. It's a simple fact that the western religions have a more tolerant view. Who's provoking who by the way? If you feel cartoons are provocative what the fuck the does robbing a nation [iraq] of its oil make you feel like? Id hate to see you if you spilt some milk. OH THE ANGER.....

[Tripper]

Originally Posted by interox

Another leftwing liberal nancy willing to pamper the fanatics. If anyone wants to print a cartoon depicting anything remotely religous so what? The islam religion is mass hysteria anyway so regardless of any sensible view the fanatics are going to go apeshit defending their faith. It's a simple fact that the western religions have a more tolerant view. Who's provoking who by the way? If you feel cartoons are provocative what the fuck the does robbing a nation [iraq] of its oil make you feel like? Id hate to see you if you spilt some milk. OH THE ANGER.....

Wow what a retarded, senseless mess of words you just made.

I never said I agreed with the reaction of those Muslims - What I DID say is basically that you're asking for it if you provoke these muslims by delibrately reprinting the images inspite (I haven't heard any valid reason for reprinting the image, except to make a "point" about "free speech") of that reaction. Now the editors etc have to go into hiding. I wonder why that is?

The reason why there was such a strong reaction in the middle east over other Muslim areas of the world is because that those muslims are already pissed the fuck off at westerners for all the shit they've been stirring in their countries....

My point is that this came at a REALLY bad time for western-middle eastern relations, and anymore shit like this is going to send the relationship to a place where it can't be sorted out. The fact that the people that reprinted the image did so knowing that is just silly, and foolish - They put all their countrymen at risk just to "make a point."

It may sound like I'm justifying the reaction of the muslims - I'm not. I'm making a point that rather than making attempts to revive the relationship - These people are just making things worse.

[interox]

Your waffling now friend, you've made your position clear in the other thread. Middle east relations with west have been shit for centuries; do you have any knowledge of the crusades? All were seeing here is a resurgence of isalmic fundamentalism and people like you who make excuses for it by saying the west are provoking it is crap. We in the west have not changed over the last 10 yrs were going about our daily business its just the middle east is flexing its new found economic muscle [ oil to china ,shortages in the west] With people like yourself sat on an island far from any real threat by islamic fantatics preaching about tolerance to this kind of thing well fuck off and come back with a valid argument about the rain when you have actually got wet!

[elstatec]

Originally Posted by Interox

With people like yourself sat on an island far from any real threat by islamic fantatics preaching about tolerance to this kind of thing well fuck off and come back with a valid argument about the rain when you have actually got wet!

Its world politics so anyone can say anything they like, and just leave now as i believe every member, regardless of their views can agree that you are an infantile fool, and with every reply it shows even more so, sojust leave and dont let the door hit you on the way out.

[interox]

Seems as tho your a real advocate of freedom of speech dosent it !!! I take it if you dont like what someone else writes that you resort to abuse, I suppose if you were able you would behead me or even burn down my house in protest. I respect your right to reply and also anyones else's. This is a FORUM OF THE FREE . Are we not lucky this is'nt moderated by people like you!

[Eight Ace]

Originally Posted by elstatec

just leave now as i believe every member, regardless of their views can agree that you are an infantile fool

Originally Posted by elstatec

stfu it is on subject, in the religion of Jedi, Obi Wan Kenobi is a god.
plzdie:

rolleyes:

[elstatec]

comedy.

[Tripper]

Originally Posted by interox

Your waffling now friend, you've made your position clear in the other thread. Middle east relations with west have been shit for centuries; do you have any knowledge of the crusades? All were seeing here is a resurgence of isalmic fundamentalism and people like you who make excuses for it by saying the west are provoking it is crap. We in the west have not changed over the last 10 yrs were going about our daily business its just the middle east is flexing its new found economic muscle [ oil to china ,shortages in the west] With people like yourself sat on an island far from any real threat by islamic fantatics preaching about tolerance to this kind of thing well fuck off and come back with a valid argument about the rain when you have actually got wet!

The crusades were a fairly long time ago..

The reason things have been bad with the middle east has alot to do with the way western societies and colonial empires have been infiltrating their politics for the last couple of hundred years. This recent series of conflicts coupled with the massive media which caters for billions, globally, is beginning to look like the straw that broke the camels back for middle eastern-western relations.

[General Cobra]

Awww poor muslims and radical extremists. Want a cookie?
Fuck that. We've seen EXACTLY what the real muslim world is about. It's ok for them to burn embassies, flags and kill innocent people. But it's not ok for some newspaper to print a cartoon. Hypocracy is islam. Fuck islam and fuck mohammed.

[Machette]

Yes indeed, every muslim acts this way.. rolleyes: