[Madmartagen]

how can a group of cops not cuff or hog tie a guy who just jumped out of a 3rd story window?

if they had a clause to shoot him then im sure they would have done it. since he probably did not have the gun on him when he was arrested, they knew they would have been in some deep shit had they done so.

yeah we werent there, but does it matter? we're debating on whether cops have a right to beat someone. i think its scary that you guys condone this kind of excessive force during certain circumstances. the thing is you are letting the cops decide when they can do this or not. since i am already distrustful of them, i would rather have the whole decision making process determine that they are not allowed to use excessive force in any situation. shooting an armed suspect is not excessive - blasting him with 1500 rounds from 30 0fficers is excessive. handcuffing or hog tying a suspect is not excessive, but punching/kicking or smashing a dudes face in with a baton is - especially when they could have subdued him in numbers rather than relying on overwhelming force.

the fact that they put the mask on this guys face to cover up (i dont buy that shit about not wanting him to spit on people) shows that they knew there was going to be a reaction to this so they wanted to hide it or downplay it. i think its a clear case of cops taking the law into their own hands instead of enforcing it.