[RaNgeR]

[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":19966]I'm still on bail from Maidstone county court kus some fker ripped a webcam off the ceiling in the loo & the bouncers thought it was me! I have to go back on the 2nd July, I wonder what will happen? ed:

btw this makes me officially gangsta rock: -bust a cap in yo azz my gud chap[/quote:19966]

LOL

[Arkan]

I didn't read all the replies but let me ask this...........

Lets roll the clock back to the 1970's. What do you think would've happened to those kids? You don't know?, Well, let me tell you. They would've gotten 2 ass beatings....one from the cop, the other from the kids father.
Those kids were nothing but disrespectful and one went as far as almost assaulting a police officer while he was trying to effect an arrest. Fuckers got off easy if you ask me. Break the law and take your lumps like a man. Don't be a pussy and cry brutality.

btw, it really had nothing to do with skateboarding.......think about it.

[Jotun]

how the fuck were they disrespectful? they were telling the cop to relax because they were just skateboarding, not harming anyone. they probably would have listened to him if he didnt go fucking nuts.

america needs to get out of this purile conservative bullshit and relax. skateboard culture is awesome and extremely interesting, and its good to see kids skateboarding and enjoying themselves. the law is bullshit.

[Whatada]

Originally Posted by Jotun

skateboard culture is awesome and extremely interesting.

relevance?

[Jotun]

Originally Posted by Whatada

relevance?

people have such a problem with it. some kids just want to skate, and the town has to set up these bullshit laws. its the same with tattoo culture. the older generations have serious issues with tattoos and now people cant get jobs because it bothers these people. both these subcultures are shitted on because people wont open their fucking eyes.

[[DAS REICH] Blitz]

Originally Posted by Jotun

people have such a problem with it. some kids just want to skate, and the town has to set up these bullshit laws. its the same with tattoo culture. the older generations have serious issues with tattoos and now people cant get jobs because it bothers these people. both these subcultures are shitted on because people wont open their fucking eyes.

not all tattoos bother people, just i think the new jersey wave tattoos bother certain people

[Jotun]

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":58fa9]

Originally Posted by Jotun

people have such a problem with it. some kids just want to skate, and the town has to set up these bullshit laws. its the same with tattoo culture. the older generations have serious issues with tattoos and now people cant get jobs because it bothers these people. both these subcultures are shitted on because people wont open their fucking eyes.

not all tattoos bother people, just i think the new jersey wave tattoos bother certain people[/quote:58fa9]
they can go suck a dick.

[Eight Ace]

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[anti]

lol 8ace

Originally Posted by Arkan

Break the law and take your lumps like a man. Don't be a pussy and cry brutality.

i like how arkan condones police brutality. i love how you think violence is always ok arkan, let it be towards citizens from officers, or from fathers to their children.
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some of the personal biases in this thread are pretty ridiculous. kids were being disrespectful yes, but did the cop need to treat them like that? no. did anyone notice the second cop doing nothing? probably a good chance he felt he didn't really need to do anything for something as petty as this; only proving that the first cop was being way too excessive. still, don't break the law kids and expect smiles and rainbows when you get caught for it.

[[DAS REICH] Blitz]

ya, unharmful violence is bad. I feel we need more undisciplined, disrespectful punks in this world too...

[anti]

[quote="[DAS REICH] Blitz":5c586]ya, unharmful violence is bad. I feel we need more undisciplined, disrespectful punks in this world too...[/quote:5c586]

i'm sorry to hear that you think violence is the only solution to a problem. and what the fuck is 'unharmful violence'?

[TGB!]

[quote:1b556]i like how arkan condones police brutality. i love how you think violence is always ok arkan, let it be towards citizens from officers, or from fathers to their children. [/quote:1b556]

Upon second viewing there was ONE questionable situation, the girl. A situation that was elevated when the kids tried to INTERFERE with the man detaining the girl (which the cop has EVERY right to do - hell she had a skateboard in hand, what the fuck was he supposed to think) - the same fella who RAN from the cop.

If this is police brutality man, then fuck it - we just need to get rid of them all, and but everyone on the honor system.

The SINGLE cop was detaining UNCOOPERATIVE suspects. Sorry, but there are situations where force is needed. Unless of course a solution would have been to let them go - which isnt a solution at all.

[Chronic Diarrhea]

The video does a piss poor job of documenting the totality of the circumstances. I would suspect there was some creative editing. I sincerely doubt that the underlying cause of the arrests were simply skateboarding. In fact, if you listen closely, the arrest was for fleeing when the first kid was told to stop for violating the city ordinance. Ordinance violations would rarely result in a physical arrest in and of itself.

Let us, for the moment, assume that the underlying cause for the arrest was legitimate, and focus on the tactics of the officers. I see nothing wrong up until the point at which he grabs the girl, who also attempts to flee when told she was going to be detained (admittedly, I have a hard time making out the audio at this point, so I don't know what exactly is said, but the officer seems to be ordering them towards the wall or something).

The officer quickly grabs the girl with an arm around the neck. Now, that is a poor tactic regardless. It affords little or no control. I think the officer should have immediately transitioned to a more effective measure which would have prevented the appearance that he was choking her.

As for the second guy - the one that tried to body slam the officer or something (I'm not sure what the purpose of that move was) in order to interfere with the arrest, I would have likely punched him. For whatever reason, the officer grabbed that guy around the neck too.....again, a wholly useless move that accomplishes little more than looking worse than it it.

[anti]

[quote="TGB!":b2846][quote:b2846]i like how arkan condones police brutality. i love how you think violence is always ok arkan, let it be towards citizens from officers, or from fathers to their children. [/quote:b2846]

Upon second viewing there was ONE questionable situation, the girl. A situation that was elevated when the kids tried to INTERFERE with the man detaining the girl (which the cop has EVERY right to do - hell she had a skateboard in hand, what the fuck was he supposed to think) - the same fella who RAN from the cop.

If this is police brutality man, then fuck it - we just need to get rid of them all, and but everyone on the honor system.

The SINGLE cop was detaining UNCOOPERATIVE suspects. Sorry, but there are situations where force is needed. Unless of course a solution would have been to let them go - which isnt a solution at all.[/quote:b2846]

i wasn't implying that this situation was an instance of police brutality, it was more of a general statement towards arkan's general statement. obviously there are going to be instances when force is necessary, i would never deny that.


one thing to note is that there were two cops, and watch the behaviour of the second one. his nonchalant attitude makes me believe that the situation didn't need to get as severe as it did. he also had mase, that would have solved everything pretty easily than pulling a stone cold steve austin.

[TGB!]

I agree, there are gross instances of police brutality, and several on here support it - the first thing that pops in my mind is the cop-killer getting the shit beat out of him, and the folks here accepting that it happened when he jumped out of a window. . . oOo: