[Simo Häyhä]

the 2nd amendment is the ultimate check against government tyranny

[Coleman]

no, those are usually stolen from a parent or friend. they don't sell guns to 16/17 year olds that go for weekly visits with the school psychologist.

[elstatec]

ja i know that but those they take from their dad or a friend are all legal and fun and dandy thats what i ment

[Coleman]

Originally Posted by elstatec

ja i know that but those they take from their dad or a friend are all legal and fun and dandy thats what i ment

that's been stated many times in this thread.

[[DAS REICH] Blitz]

is CCW legal? i thought some states don't allow you to carry guns on you at all?

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by [DAS REICH] Blitz

is CCW legal? i thought some states don't allow you to carry guns on you at all?

Sure, CCW is legal in most states.

[m00nraker]

Originally Posted by Arkan

Sure, CCW is legal in most states.

I know it is very heavily regulated, if allowed at all, in Illinois. There is also one other state that bans it, I want to say its Wisconsin, but Im not positive.

[Colonel]

Well, until they figure out a way to prevent strong young men from breaking into the homes of weak old men, I say we keep the right to own handguns ... since they are a great equalizer ....

As an example, this from the Atlanta paper a couple of days ago ...

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Elderly Tucker man had struggled with burglar

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution


It was about 11:30 p.m. one night this week when 81-year-old Robert Jenkins heard someone break down the door of his Tucker home.

Jenkins, a retired state transportation worker, grabbed is .38-caliber pistol from a bedroom closet and confronted a lone intruder in the kitchen.

"When he saw me, he said, 'Give me that gun,'" Jenkins recalled Friday. "Then he lunged at me, so I shot him."

The first bullet hit the man in the chest, Jenkins said, "but he kept lunging for me and beating me" in the head and chest.

"So I shot him again," Jenkins said. That bullet hit the intruder in the neck.

"I just wondered how much longer he was going to live because I saw blood flowing out across the floor," Jenkins said by phone from the hospital. "It seemed like an hour, but I guess it was 45 seconds, and he was dead."

Peggy Jenkins, 71, was in the couple's bedroom dialing 911.

"I heard two shots," she said. "I knew someone was dead."

That someone was 25-year-old Jynard Marshall, an Atlanta man who broke into the elderly couple's home near Lawrenceville Highway on Tuesday night. Marshall previously had served prison time on a robbery and drug conviction in Fulton County.

DeKalb County police said the shooting was justified and they did not plan to charge Robert Jenkins, who accidentally fired a shot through his hand and hit his head during the struggle.

He was treated and released from Grady Memorial Hospital on Wednesday, but was being treated at Emory University Hospital on Friday for dehydration and mild bleeding on the brain. He expects to be released today.

If it happened again, "I'd do the exact same thing," Robert Jenkins said. "But I hope I don't have to."
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And for your further reading pleasure:

This is a link to the briefs filed from both sides of the issue in this week's Supreme Court case.

http://www.nraila.org/heller/

And, this is the link to the transcript from the Supreme Court. It is a fascinating to read. Take the time to read this one if you want to learn the facts as they are, not as you may want them to be.


http://www.supremecourtus.gov/oral_a...pts/07-290.pdf

[Tripper]

I've always been on the fence on this issue but the pro-gun side is full of retards. I'm sorry but the comparisons you use work against your cause - you cant compare a gun to a knife, a bat, a car, violent music or movies, video games....A gun is a gun. Please, no more weak comparisons.


...and stop copy/pasting obviously over-sensationalized fake persuasive journalism. Shit's weak.

[Pyro]

haha

I want one of those handguns that shoot shotgun shells

Anyways....I just don't believe in the license to carry part...I believe that every man or women deserve to have a gun if they want one...only if they don't have a criminal record though.