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Default 02-22-2006, 12:58 PM

this is getting way out of hand. The man who offered the rewards for killing the cartoonists should be hung for doing that. What sort of religion tells its people to kill when they are based on peace?
Say what you will but If my life was threatened with a hit on my head I would arm myself and shoot anyone I felt threatened by and ask questions later.
Anyone who riots violently should just be put down. Go ahead and tell me thats the wrong thing to do, but these people riot over the smallest things(not saying drawing Muhhammad is small) and they often take lives when they riot.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 01:12 PM

When people die over cartoons that were originally a protest by a children's book writer, somethings really fucking amiss.

But I forgot, making a publicly watched children's cartoon in Iran, showing young boys becoming suicide bombers is just peachy.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 01:12 PM

jesus you wouldnt realise cartoons have such an affect.

they wouldn't have with any rational people.

ever remember that director/producer dude from holland that got killed by a muslim because he was seen to offend them in a film he made.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_(film_director):28502]Theo Van Gogh[/url:28502]

[url=http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/indian-islamic-court-issues-fatwa-to-cartoonists/2006/02/21/1140284054707.html:28502]An Islamic court in India has issued a fatwa, or religious decree, condemning to death the 12 artists who drew the controversial images of the prophet Mohammed.[/url:28502]

if Iran wants to make a big deal of the Holocaust cartoons they intend printing (even though their leaders public views are much more real and offensive than any cartoon could ever be), I hope Israel goes "Munich" on them, tracks down the editors/artists and anyone involved, and give them a little taste of fatwa. Lets see how they feel about that.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 02:22 PM

Instead of offering a reward, why doesn't this cleric just buy a ticket and go to MegaCon in Orlando on February 24-26. All the cartoonists will be there. That way he can take the Dutch guys out himself ... and buy a commission, from one of the great Marvel artists of a hot chick straddling a bomb, while he's there!

I'm sure they could personalize the art for him and put "Down With America" or something on it. Maybe "I'm too chicken to blow myself up so I'm sending this young boy to do it for me" ... hmmmm... that might be too long to fit on the bomb.


[img]http://www.colonelbrands.com/images/BomberArtHughes.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.colonelbrands.com/images/BomberArtBrooks.jpg[/img]

Apologies to Hughes and Brooks for reprinting their artwork...
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 04:32 PM

None of this is unprecedented in the Muslim World. Anybody remember Salman Rushdie and his Satanic Verses? Iran offered a $2 million bounty on his ass. No one should be surprised.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 05:21 PM

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None of this is unprecedented in the Muslim World.
No-one is suggesting it is, I think your confusing disgust with surprise.


Salman Rushdie was not murdered, but:

"Meanwhile, further violence occurred around the world, with the firebombing of bookstores at the University of California at Berkeley which stocked the novel, and the offices of The Riverdale Press, a weekly newspaper in The Bronx, in response to an editorial which defended the right to read the book. On February 24, five people were shot and killed by the police during a protest outside the British consulate in Bombay. Several other people died in Egypt and elsewhere. Muslim communities throughout the world held public rallies in which copies of the book were burned. In 1991, Rushdie's Japanese translator, Hitoshi Igarashi, was stabbed and killed at the university where he taught in Tsukuba, Ibaraki, north of Tokyo, and his Italian translator was beaten and stabbed in Milan. In 1993, Rushdie's Norwegian publisher William Nygaard was shot and severely injured in an attack outside his house in Oslo. Thirty-seven people died when their hotel in Sivas, Turkey was burnt down by locals protesting against Aziz Nesin, Rushdie's Turkish translator."

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie:2f454]LINK[/url:2f454]
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 05:40 PM

[quote="Eight Ace":d1282]
No-one is suggesting it is, I think your confusing disgust with surprise.[/quote:d1282]
Nah. Just wanted to enlighten our younger cohorts. Most on this board were probably in diapers when the book came out.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 05:46 PM

ITs weird to think there are people on this board who were not even born when that happened.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 06:44 PM

[quote="Eight Ace":9028d] I hope Israel goes "Munich" on them, tracks down the editors/artists and anyone involved, and give them a little taste of fatwa. Lets see how they feel about that.[/quote:9028d]


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I hope Israel goes "Munich" on them, tracks down the editors/artists and anyone involved, and give them a little taste of fatwa. Lets see how they feel about that.
rolleyes:[/quote:5833d]
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Default 02-22-2006, 07:46 PM

I agree with 8. People should be allowed to kill those who are out to kill them.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 08:03 PM

Don't bring Israel into the equation, thats irresponsible. Israel has already killed enough Arabs.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 08:06 PM

it's not a one sided thing, they are killing EACH OTHER. It would just be interesting to see somebody do the same thing to the muslims and see if their heads would explode at the realization of their hypocrisy or if they would just kill more of each other or other people.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 08:22 PM

I'm posting this to shed light on my previous statement. I've used this site before on this fourm.

http://www.btselem.org/english/statisti ... alties.asp

B'Tselem is ran in Israel as well. I hold it in high regard as do many other intellects who write about the Israel/Palestine conflict.

This is only from the first intifada as well...keep that in mind.
  
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Default 02-22-2006, 08:27 PM

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Don't bring Israel into the equation, thats irresponsible. Israel has already killed enough Arabs.
They could go for a few hundred more ... who's gona know?
  
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