Rockets and shotguns ruin the MP games... :/ - Page 2

[WTF]DrDuKeS · 02-20-2002, 08:03 AM

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poseyj · 02-20-2002, 10:29 AM

if you ever play a good quake player in mohaa, and hes using a shotgun, you will be owned if you go inside a closed space, even if you get the jump on someone.
this one guy shot me 3 times with a bar, i still fired one shot killed him with shotgun.
haha, thats hilarious, he should have killed me, but no.

bazookas should be limited like they were in the war.
shotguns should be limited like they were in the war. the more standard weapons are way more fun to use anyway. garand being the funnest imo.

and guys, dont tell people to change their tactics and adapt, cause something is a part of the game. cheats were part of the game too, and how do you adapt to that?

<lamer> I MUST ADAPT I AM A ROBOT, REGARDLESS OF OBSURDITIES I MUST ADAPT.
WHAT IS BALANCED GAMEPLAY?
WAIT POSEYJ IS KILLING ME WITH SHOTGUN STILL, ERROR ERROR I AM LAMER.

if u think u can adapt to every situation, your sorely mistaken and you haven't played good enough people that take advantage of special weapons. you can't adapt to 5 dead eye 30 ping snipers in dm2. you can't adapt to 5 close quarter shotgun maniacs in dm1.

the arsenal needs balancing for the most enjoyable experience for the majority of people. END OF STORY

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Charlie Martel · 02-20-2002, 10:39 AM

They should just have limits for teams. Like per team there can be a ratio like this:

0 bazookas (unless there's a tank!):1 shotgun:1 Thompson:1 BAR:1 sniper:3 Garand...

maybe another Thompson or BAR...

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Kakorott · 02-21-2002, 12:23 AM

WHO CARES this game isnt meant to sim war its meant for people to go against eachother n kill eachother n clear objectives any MEANS necessary u think Patton said hey u germans stop using those panzers on my people or ill whine and quit or hess sayin hey dude dont nade my bunkers and leave the shotguns out u chickens ummm no u all whine so much bout no realism but think of that next time u do if u want realism play how u want or just play realism mods or make a geneva convention mod or something people who whine bout nades n shotguns are the real losers fucking babys

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Kakorott · 02-21-2002, 12:27 AM

oh yea u can adapt to every situation given time and a capable brain if u dont have the later just go to a nursing home and live also who said shotguns n bazookas were limited they were given to the troops who used them and were more capable with them and it depended on there postion in their squad in the platoon that was in the company in a platoon there was prob 8 shot gunners 4 bazookas given a 4 squad platoon if u want it like that join a clan squad whatever name u use in this game otherwise people will use what they want and u non adapting single cell organisms will have to deal with it or not play

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poseyj · 02-21-2002, 01:02 AM

ur a fuckin idiot kakarott. you have obviously never played with skilled players.
DUH i know what it feels like to slaughter newbies, you are disillusioned that you are good with every weapon against every weapon.

reality check dumbass, ive played with good players, and under certain circumstances, yes you can adapt, but others NO, so don't say you can adapt to everything. shotguns OWN everything inside no questions, unless the guy is a complete moron that has no twitch speed.

then second, THIS ISN'T REAL LIFE, stop escaping to those pathetic excuses, its a game, games are cool cause they have GOOD GAMEPLAY, no game will ever be truly realistic, but the ironic thing is, limiting special weapons IS REALISTIC DUMBASS.

when more cheats are found, and you complain, i will say ADAPT TO IT DUMBASS , OR STFU.

you are a child, that doesn't give a shit about good gameplay that has lasting value. so just do us a favor and leave, your not making anything better.

and i bet youd be a SWELL BETA TESTER, when developers want you to submit bugs and ideas for balanced gameplay, you would just say, STFU, EVERYONE SHOULD JUST ADAPT. THIS GAME IS FINE. but no mohaa is not fine, it needs some tweaking if it wants to be up to par with balanced games that are played by masses.

Reese · 02-21-2002, 01:21 AM

I agree. I have disabled the rockets on my server long time ago. Don't mind the shotgun though.

ManOfHonor · 02-21-2002, 02:27 AM

hey i got response for all the shotty and rocket hatters out there. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I play the game the way it was meant to be played. The shotgun takes great skill. U have to move in close to someone without being spotted or dieing. I prefer the SMG and i can take out shot gunners from half way accross the level and they have no defense. Sure the shotgun spreads but if the target is far away then it only does five damage. The rocket launcher is weapon that to use properly u would need alot of skill. It loses its accuracy the farther it travels and it is slow as shit. If someone could use it without killing themselves or other members of their team i would gladly like them on my squad. So to all the fags who feel the game doesnt have realism guess what ITS A FUCKIN GAME. So get a life and some skill u fags.

poseyj · 02-21-2002, 03:41 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Tahoma, Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ManOfHonor:
hey i got response for all the shotty and rocket hatters out there. SHUT THE FUCK UP. I play the game the way it was meant to be played. The shotgun takes great skill. U have to move in close to someone without being spotted or dieing. I prefer the SMG and i can take out shot gunners from half way accross the level and they have no defense. Sure the shotgun spreads but if the target is far away then it only does five damage. The rocket launcher is weapon that to use properly u would need alot of skill. It loses its accuracy the farther it travels and it is slow as shit. If someone could use it without killing themselves or other members of their team i would gladly like them on my squad. So to all the fags who feel the game doesnt have realism guess what ITS A FUCKIN GAME. So get a life and some skill u fags.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you fucking idiot, you are totally off. i love the shotgun, and i kickass with it, it doesn't take much skill, and thats from the horses mouth you shithead.

now that arguement isn't to ban shotgunners altoghther numb nuts, its to limit the class, so their aren't 6 shotgunners on your ass, the shotgun is a special weapon and makes people think they are better then they really are.(you for example). just like snipers and bazookas they should be limited, cause the weapons weren't handed out to just anyone in ww2.

people like you don't read posts, they just dont have a fucking clue, try reading.

Charlie Martel · 02-21-2002, 03:54 AM

Like poseyj said, what we want to happen is that the weapons only be limited for historical accuracy. The weapons' stats should not be changed at all. Some of you people need to learn how to read.

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[WTF]DrDuKeS · 02-21-2002, 04:20 AM

The problem with limiting them is that who would get them? First come first serve? In that case incompetant people could end up with them and not the player(s) who is best... or maybe that's a good thing

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d3rwh33z!3024 · 02-21-2002, 04:22 AM

Well After I posted yesterday I decided to get on a public server and see how it was. I was actually surprised at how many people were using the Rocket Launchers. In the beginning I was a little disoriented but then I started to figure them out. It actually got kinda fun runnin up on Zookas wit an MG or SMG, hehe, My kill ratio was 2/1 while theirs was more around 1/2. Also I found that most people using those weapons (not all) seemed to be low skilled noobs neway, probably just quake kiddies trying to get frags. The only problem I had was that it got kinda booring shooting the same rocket spammers all the time, If I used a weapon and consistant ly got shot up I would change my tactics, but these folks just kept eatin my lead. well anyway my point being that the weapons are not terribly unbalanced untill you get spammers that all choose the same weapon. You would hear complaints if everyone used the M1. I personally think that RTCW had it right when they made their MP, the class system makes it hard for spammers to be effective. except if you use those damn airstrikes lol.

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dEtRiMeNtAl · 02-21-2002, 06:14 AM

Well i've only just started to play MP tonight and i havent seen any mass usage of rockets and shotguns.
I wouldnt say the shotgun requires a large amount of skill to use either , if your able to point in the rough direction and press the mouse button at the right time then you'll most probably get the kill , where as with a mauser it's a different story , but if your a good shot then you can take on a shotgunner at close range and have a good chance of winning the fight.

But i think its wrong to say that people are stupid "n00bs" if they enjoy playing the game with a certain weapon.

Also i think its rather silly to complain when there's a lot of snipers since they normally stay away from the fighting and shoot from a longer range meaning they have to be a better skilled player to get the hit.

Further more someone said there should be limits on what kind of weapons people can take since rockets n shotgunners wernt in many numbers..... well i don't know about the shotgunners but there were a hell of a lot of Panzerschreck's in massive use during 1944-45.

LT.CRZZED · 02-21-2002, 06:27 AM

I totaly agree.

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d3rwh33z!3024 · 02-21-2002, 06:37 AM

"well i don't know about the shotgunners but there were a hell of a lot of Panzerschreck's in massive use during 1944-45." dEtRiMeNtAl

Yes there were but thats cuz there were massive amounts of Shermans comming up from Normandy. The germans were obviously not running around in 1 man teams with a PZSchrek taking potshots at allied soldiers. No they were in 2 man teams suporting infantry against armor or covering Their Panzers Flanks. This doesnt mean that they never were shot at people Im sure they were. But if you were in the Whermacht and you knew that there were 100 shermans comming down the road and you had 5 tigers bhind you you wouldnt shoot your rockets at a lone infantry man.

The diference between this game and other FPS's is that it was based on history....................most others were all fiction thusly allowing for weapons like rockets. so with this in mind I think it proves the point of this thread (about the Rockets neway). If you need more Facts to support it I can post them but i have other things to do right now.

ohh yea I think its time for another one
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