Originally Posted by Fallout

Yes, if you honestly repented for it, yes.

so this is like that preschol bullshit where a kid hit another in the face with a rock and then they tell the teacher they're sorry and are free to go, that's fucking bullshit!

Anyone who claims that a religious criminal is better than an honest agnostic is FULL OF SHIT!

[Old Reliable]

why is it that we as humans pretend that we are ultimate beings? we are nothing but organic matter made from the stars, and when we die our body is recycled. we are only put on this earth because the necessary elements for life were created and evolved into human beings. the mind is destroyed during death, and that mind will never live again, therefore ending that life. since the universe is slowly dying and will never be re-created, you will never ever live again. don't even try to convince yourself that you will somehow live again. I do however believe in the preachings of the bible as a way to live, and try to follow them as best as I can.

[quote="Sgt Stryker":685f9]
so this is like that preschol where a kid hit another in the face with a rock and then they tell the teacher they're sorry and are free to go, that's ing !

Anyone who claims that a religious criminal is better than an honest agnostic is FULL OF ![/quote:685f9]

Sorry you see it that way.

This is why I try to avoid the Offtopic forum, it just ends up with people arguing there very different beleifs, each claiming the other is stupid.

[cashwarsplaya]

[quote=Fallout]

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":39887

so this is like that preschol where a kid hit another in the face with a rock and then they tell the teacher they're sorry and are free to go, that's ing !

Anyone who claims that a religious criminal is better than an honest agnostic is FULL OF !

Sorry you see it that way.

This is why I try to avoid the Offtopic forum, it just ends up with people arguing there very different beleifs, each claiming the other is stupid.[/quote:39887]
Shutup! You are stupid! The offtopic forum isnt anything like that at all! oOo:

[cashwarsplaya]

i was kidding by the way, i read my post and it didnt seem like i was

[Captain Bunny]

Maybe some people should spend less time reading their bible and more time reading a dictionary. That would make the world a better place.

[Duke_of_Ray]

[quote:91fdf]so this is like that preschol bullshit where a kid hit another in the face with a rock and then they tell the teacher they're sorry and are free to go, that's fucking bullshit!

Anyone who claims that a religious criminal is better than an honest agnostic is FULL OF SHIT! [/quote:91fdf]

A "religious" criminal is no better than any other criminal. Now people whoe are killed, and put in jail for teaching Jesus are not criminals, but people being punished for spreading the truth. Im no better than any criminal injail right now. You know, if you do sin, and you truly repent and turn away you will be saved and forgiven, God will forget the sin ever happen, you will still suffer the consequences of your actions, but you will go to Heaven. God is loving, we all mess up, if we couldnt mess up at all we would all die and go to hell, but no God loved us enough to send His only Son to die for us.


[quote:91fdf]fun to read Innoxx own him though
Unknown_Sniper or repetative. Duke keeps saying the same things over and over and over and over again. Innoxx keeps owning him freestyle ten ways to sunday
[/quote:91fdf]

Im getting owned? No I got owned to do, but that was at a Pc game online, at this I am not getting owned, but you are deciving yourselfs, the truth is near just accept it!

[quote:91fdf]Assuming i was wrong, and when i died it turns out there was a god and so i got sent to hell, it wouldnt be so bad. I'd be able to see all my friends because they would end up there too, and there would be some pretty cool people to meet. Id be quite happy to punch hitler the face. I may even suck up to the devil enough and become one of his demonic minions.

I would personally be driven insane if i was sent to heaven. Imagine...enternity with people like those preacher guys, and the royal family, and many other stuck up snobs. [/quote:91fdf]

Uh, in hell you would see nobody, you would be in total darkness and feel nashing of teeth, and the undying fire. As for Heaven, its not made of snobs, no but loving people who knew God.




[quote:91fdf]why is it that we as humans pretend that we are ultimate beings? we are nothing but organic matter made from the stars, and when we die our body is recycled. we are only put on this earth because the necessary elements for life were created and evolved into human beings. the mind is destroyed during death, and that mind will never live again, therefore ending that life. since the universe is slowly dying and will never be re-created, you will never ever live again. don't even try to convince yourself that you will somehow live again. I do however believe in the preachings of the bible as a way to live, and try to follow them as best as I can. [/quote:91fdf]

Well, we will live again, and I wish you would live by the command to accept Jesus, for your sake.



[quote:91fdf]Maybe some people should spend less time reading their bible and more time reading a dictionary. That would make the world a better place. [/quote:91fdf]

We need more people read and LIVING by the Bible, that is what this sinful world needs!

I believe one of teh Star Wars characters said: you assume too much,

I'm pretty sure they were talking about you

[SoLiDUS]

In response to an earlier post referring to "Why God hasn't come down to
show himself", I will play the Devil's advocate and say this: assuming God
or whatever supraphysical entity exists, we can assume freedom of choice
is intact... UNLESS the being reveals himself. It would be a direct violation
of that freedom of choice: then, the only possibility in this case would be
that you have total liberty to choose atheism, agnosticism or theism. Also,
question the logic behind the "Heaven and Hell" concept. I will proceed to
explain my position and belief: feel free to think about the material I am
about to post and question it when it sinks in. I came across this material
and agree with it... I will post a link to the material in its verbatim form.

[url:b6e2a]http://www.geocities.com/solidusownsj00/freedom.htm[/url:b6e2a]

PS. I know absolutely NO ONE will bother reading it, however I felt compelled
to post it...

[SoLiDUS]

Duke,

Can you force anyone to love you?

Can you demand being loved?

Would you really love someone if there are “conditions”
attached?

What happens to true Love in these situations?

The moment we try to force anyone to love us, or impose any
conditions, the Higher feeling that we call Love – simply stops
existing. It is instantly replaced by feelings of bitterness,
disappointment and even deceit, as soon as any conditions are
discovered.

This is a very “delicate situation” – to say the least.
From the above, it is clear that:

In order to experience True Love - the autonomy of
individual intellects cannot be in any way compromised.
Individual intellects have to CHOOSE themselves to give their
Highest feelings to other individual intellects by their OWN
Free Will.

Hence, we can define the autonomy of the “individual
intellects” as a necessary condition in “Designing for Love”.

FREEDOM OF CHOICE.

Heaven and Hell cannot be what await you at the moment of physical
death, assuming supraphysical states of consciousness and existence
really ARE.

Check your premises...

I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion. Are you saying that God forces us to love him?

[SoLiDUS]

The exact opposite, my dear. Choice...

Unlike Duke's God, mine is a supraintelligent being that designed the
Universe with beauty and love in mind: he gave you Life and the freedom
to acknowledge his existence and the choice to Love his being.

Life isn't a biased test in which the final outcome is either Heaven or Hell:
that is my contention and I will stand by it. Of all "beliefs", it is the most
logical and consistent of all. I suggest taking a look at the link I posted...

[[DAS REICH] Blitz]

my god 20 pages.......

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

Unlike Duke's God, mine is a supraintelligent being that designed the
Universe with beauty and love in mind: he gave you Life and the freedom
to acknowledge his existence and the choice to Love his being.

If Duke's God is that same as mine, this is a description of him

[SoLiDUS]

No.

Unlikely, if he is willing to allow one of his prized creations to suffer eternity
in the worst imaginable place after one physical incarnation: considering how
your tabula rasa is filled by an education and values partly instilled in you
by your parents and the society of your time and place, if your freedom of
choice lands you in Hell, he is not at all the same being I choose to believe
in.

Very illogical thing for a supreme intellect to do if you ask me. Wouldn't you
agree ?