[-DJK-]

"End this topic now before it becomes something like what happend when DJK was around."

Hehehe

"Blood is only eye candy, it's not needed. The game wont be any less fun because theres no blood in it."

That is purely YOUR opinion. In MY opinion, seeing each and every leaf on a tree is just eye candy, and isn't needed. I'd much rather they work on a realistic damage model for the characters w/blood, gore, and bullet holes, than spend their time animating leaves. And yes I know now that they ARN'T gonna do it.

[Hans]

People, try to understand this -- THERE WILL BE NO BLOOD -- no matter what you do -- THERE WILL BE NO BLOOD -- EA does not care about what you want, just money and the fact that -- THERE WILL BE NO BLOOD -- gives them a lower rating, allowing them to sell the game to younger people, making more money.

[Albow0001]

Why not just make it realistic little pufts the way Rogue Spear does it. We really dont need gore, limbs flying everywhere. Even if it may have happened sometimes (mortars), it's okay.
But if you put in little pufts of blood and set a very nice little Parental control lock or something where you could enable/disable blood
I know it's been said before, but by god, that just makes sense. In fact, I DEMAND that someone start a petition that we do just that

[riesep]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Albow0001:
Why not just make it realistic little pufts the way Rogue Spear does it. We really dont need gore, limbs flying everywhere. Even if it may have happened sometimes (mortars), it's okay.
But if you put in little pufts of blood and set a very nice little Parental control lock or something where you could enable/disable blood
I know it's been said before, but by god, that just makes sense. In fact, I DEMAND that someone start a petition that we do just that<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Having a blood on/off switch can add to the playability level, especially if the blood reacts differently depending on where the bullet wound is.

[Recycled Spooge]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by riesep:

Having a blood on/off switch can add to the playability level, especially if the blood reacts differently depending on where the bullet wound is.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, like when you hit an artery it will spray.


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[riesep]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Recycled Spooge:
[quote:82d8c]Originally posted by riesep:

Having a blood on/off switch can add to the playability level, especially if the blood reacts differently depending on where the bullet wound is.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, like when you hit an artery it will spray.


[/quote:82d8c]

Hey Spooge exactly where are you from, somewhere in Europe?

[Recycled Spooge]

Actually, I'm Polish.

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[elmagoo]

Ummm, DJK, you keep bringing up the leaf thing......well......we never said that, that was an observation made by a press publication. In all actuality our trees don't have every leaf modeled and animated perfectly. It's all a great illusion done by our modellers and texture artists (whom are both very skeeled and wowed all of us the first time we saw the trees in the game . But rest assured, we are NOT spending all our time animating and modelling every leaf on a tree. If I told you the poly count of those trees, you probably wouldn't believe me p.

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Latuh fuh U,
Benson
benson@2015.com

"We don't introduce or cause bugs in the game, we merely find and bring to light the inadequacies within the code."
-regarding level designers

[Hans]

Well, I think -DJK- has pretty much lost any point he had...

Now it's down to -- "I want blood, and my closed mindedness won't allow me to look past it and see a great product." --

[Kraut Killer]

I have one question for all of you guys who want BLOOD. Have any of you guys ever been SHOT? If you have been shot, than you may have a valid point in realism, but if you HAVEN'T, than you have no idea how realistic it may be.I myself have not been shot, and can only argue from what I've seen. And I've never seen any blood splatter or spray from an entry wound. Dust and smoke do however come up. Smoke from the bullet burning through the clothes and dust from the incredible impact on the clothes, which jars loose any dust on yonder clothes. HOWEVER, you will most likely be shooting and seeing the entry wound, unless you throw your gun in front of the target and it goes off and hits Jerry in an area where he isn't wearing thick clothes. So if you're going to argue, for a moot point at that, than stop playing the realism card.

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I'd told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME?

[Recycled Spooge]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kraut Killer:
I have one question for all of you guys who want BLOOD. Have any of you guys ever been SHOT? If you have been shot, than you may have a valid point in realism, but if you HAVEN'T, than you have no idea how realistic it may be.I myself have not been shot, and can only argue from what I've seen. And I've never seen any blood splatter or spray from an entry wound. Dust and smoke do however come up. Smoke from the bullet burning through the clothes and dust from the incredible impact on the clothes, which jars loose any dust on yonder clothes. HOWEVER, you will most likely be shooting and seeing the entry wound, unless you throw your gun in front of the target and it goes off and hits Jerry in an area where he isn't wearing thick clothes. So if you're going to argue, for a moot point at that, than stop playing the realism card.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ever seen the Kennedy assasination video(the color one). Blood will spray if you shoot an artery.



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[-DJK-]

"Well, I think -DJK- has pretty much lost any point he had...

Now it's down to -- "I want blood, and my closed mindedness won't allow me to look past it and see a great product." --"

Really? I don't ever remember saying that. What I did say was that IMO blood is an important part of the realism of a WAR game. I just won't be able to take it seriously when someone gets shot in the head and just falls over w/out a drop of blood anywhere. If thats not a problem for you, great. That's YOU. For ME, it's a problem. Now that doesn't mean that I won't atleast try the demo. Hell, it's FREE.

Kraut Killer, are you saying that people don't bleed?? Even if they have thick clothing on, there will atleast be a hole(which 2015 already said MOH:AA will NOT show), and after they lay there for a bit, there WILL be a blood stain on their clothes and possibly even a puddle of blood on the ground. As for getting hit in the head, the Kennedy assination video does indeed prove that there will be a blood spray, and also bits of brain and bone matter as well. I'm sure SOF2 will show us how blood and bullet wounds CAN indeed be implemented realistically, and still have detailed textures. And yes I know that it was overdone in SOF, but Raven has already said that they will tone it down in SOF2 to make it more realistic.



[This message has been edited by -DJK- (edited July 02, 2001).]

[Kraut Killer]

I'm not saying people don't bleed, I'm saying that, aside from the whole blood argument being moot, realisticly, through my somewhat limited knowledge,I have never been shot before as I said, when you watch old newsreels you don't say streams of blood spurting out of a persons body. Most games use blood in an over the top manner, and it is almost impossible to realisticly portray such effects in games. Aside from memory limitations, which might keep us from seeing a bloodstain on some one's shirt growing larger,gun shot wounds are static, which too detracts from realism, let's say that the wound from a BAR and the wound from a .45 are on a Kraut. In real life they'd look dramatically different, but in a game they'd just have to use the same texture. Also the pool of blood around a body is too unrealistic. A large pool wouldn't form around some smelly little Hun if he was shot in the head, BUT for memory constraints, do you really want them to waste time and delay the release of the game for minute crap such as this? So, the question I'm putting forth to you is: do you want blood for realism, or because it just looks neat-o? And by the way, Kennedy was shot in the head, that's not blood spray from his artery, that's his head exploding. He got hit somewhere between two to three times, by at least two gunmen, unless you believe the "magic bullet". Man... those little icons for the posts are gay.

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I'd told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME?

[blade]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kraut Killer:
I'm not saying people don't bleed, I'm saying that, aside from the whole blood argument being moot, realisticly, through my somewhat limited knowledge,I have never been shot before as I said, when you watch old newsreels you don't say streams of blood spurting out of a persons body. Most games use blood in an over the top manner, and it is almost impossible to realisticly portray such effects in games. Aside from memory limitations, which might keep us from seeing a bloodstain on some one's shirt growing larger,gun shot wounds are static, which too detracts from realism, let's say that the wound from a BAR and the wound from a .45 are on a Kraut. In real life they'd look dramatically different, but in a game they'd just have to use the same texture. Also the pool of blood around a body is too unrealistic. A large pool wouldn't form around some smelly little Hun if he was shot in the head, BUT for memory constraints, do you really want them to waste time and delay the release of the game for minute crap such as this? So, the question I'm putting forth to you is: do you want blood for realism, or because it just looks neat-o? And by the way, Kennedy was shot in the head, that's not blood spray from his artery, that's his head exploding. He got hit somewhere between two to three times, by at least two gunmen, unless you believe the "magic bullet". Man... those little icons for the posts are gay.

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Kennedy was shot in the head and the neck. IDIOT. This is a damn game, not real life. So its not supposed to be 'that' real. Your opinions make me gag. IDIOT.



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[Hells-Angel]

war is quite bloody, news reels cant get everything, I am just going by one of my grandpas storys he told me that his lietenant stood up in his foxhole then a shell came in and the guys head rolled into my grandpas foxhole.

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