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Default 06-29-2004, 12:19 AM

[quote="Airborne Butters":87e06]this is all I'm saying on the debate; You people in Canada, do you plan on moving down by the time the draft might reinstated? Untill then don't fucking worry about what we do. I know your guys are probally shittin' your pants saying 'well you invaded Iraq, blah blah' but let me tell you that when you fly a plane into a building and kill 2000 people, then harbor the fuckers that did it, you can almost gurantee we're gonna be fucking some shit up.[/quote:87e06]

what does flying planes into buildings have to do with Iraq



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Default 06-29-2004, 12:19 AM

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How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?
I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?
How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?
Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:
Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:4791a]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:4791a]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:4791a]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:4791a]

That doesn't answer the question.


  
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Default 06-29-2004, 12:21 AM

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How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?
I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?
How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?
Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:
Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:6e643]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:6e643]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:6e643]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:6e643]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:6e643]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.


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Default 06-29-2004, 12:22 AM

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this is all I'm saying on the debate; You people in Canada, do you plan on moving down by the time the draft might reinstated? Untill then don't fucking worry about what we do. I know your guys are probally shittin' your pants saying 'well you invaded Iraq, blah blah' but let me tell you that when you fly a plane into a building and kill 2000 people, then harbor the fuckers that did it, you can almost gurantee we're gonna be fucking some shit up.
what does flying planes into buildings have to do with Iraq



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Default 06-29-2004, 12:22 AM

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How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?
I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?
How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?
Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:
Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:edc00]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:edc00]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:edc00]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:edc00]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:edc00]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.[/quote:edc00]

I already stated I only know of classic conservatism. I am asking how conservatism is implemented right now.


  
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Default 06-29-2004, 12:23 AM

Ok Pyro,

For me... it's like this...

I have never served in the United States Military, instead I decided to go to school and get my masters degree in architecture. In a round-about way it is because of our government I had the freedom to choose that path. I wasnt forced to become a baker, or work in a steel mill. I was able to choose my own path because others had spilled thier blood. My country provided me with federal loans and protected my intrests while studying abroad. I am able to worship what ever religion I choose and speak my mind in public (within reason of course.) For me these freedoms allow happiness.

Out of simple good faith I like to think that any decisions the US makes are in the best interest of the United States and rest of the world. I don't necessarly agree with detail that occurs overseas, but i do support all of the general conceptual intents. Eliminate those who prevent the right of happiness. Our ancestors fought and died to gain independance and defend the values of the constitution. I personally believe my children, my countrymen and the people of any foriegn land deserve those same freedoms... This is why; if my country requested my presence in combat I would server without hesitation.
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 12:24 AM

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Out of simple good faith I like to think that any decisions the US makes are in the best interest of the United States and rest of the world.[/quote:1857c]

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Default 06-29-2004, 12:26 AM

[quote="[GDC]_Polemarcus":3e799]Ok Pyro,

For me... it's like this...

I have never served in the United States Military, instead I decided to go to school and get my masters degree in architecture. In a round-about way it is because of our government I had the freedom to choose that path. I wasnt forced to become a baker, or work in a steel mill. I was able to choose my own path because others had spilled thier blood. My country provided me with federal loans and protected my intrests while studying abroad. I am able to worship what ever religion I choose and speak my mind in public (within reason of course.) For me these freedoms allow happiness.

Out of simple good faith I like to think that any decisions the US makes are in the best interest of the United States and rest of the world. I don't necessarly agree with detail that occurs overseas, but i do support all of the general conceptual intents. Eliminate those who prevent the right of happiness. Our ancestors fought and died to gain independance and defend the values of the constitution. I personally believe my children, my countrymen and the people of any foriegn land deserve those same freedoms... This is why; if my country requested my presence in combat I would server without hesitation.[/quote:3e799]

How exactly can you know if that is what they want as well though. It seems the Middle- East and so on don't exactly like how the Western world is run. I also don't believe you should follow the government because of it. I know it is wrong to use Hitler in this case, but shit can happen if everyone has the same mindset.


  
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Default 06-29-2004, 12:28 AM

You're taking that statement out of context. Im aware that many of the policies they US supports are detriments to the rest of the world. But I do not believe that that the main conceptual goals of those policies are to harm people.
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 12:29 AM

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How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?
I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?
How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?
Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:
Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:c2011]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:c2011]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:c2011]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:c2011]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:c2011]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.[/quote:c2011]

I already stated I only know of classic conservatism. I am asking how conservatism is implemented right now.[/quote:c2011]

Well, lets see if i can answer your question. As far as the Government being "Conservative", i would think not just by the actions taken the past few years. Now, as far as the "people of America" and their views, i can't answer that. We have conservatives, liberals, and, unfortunately, people like yourself.

....did i answer your question or do i have to sit here all fucking night having a worthless debate with you?


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Default 06-29-2004, 12:29 AM

[quote="[GDC]_Polemarcus":46e52]You're taking that statement out of context. Im aware that many of the policies they US supports are detriments to the rest of the world. But I do not believe that that the main conceptual goals of those policies are to harm people.[/quote:46e52]

I wouldn't think that either. I don't think America would ever turn out that way.


  
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Default 06-29-2004, 12:30 AM

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote="Arkan":ee673][quote="Pyro":ee673][quote="Arkan":ee673][quote="Pyro":ee673]
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How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?
I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?
How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?
Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:
Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:ee673]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:ee673]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:ee673]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:ee673]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:ee673]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.[/quote:ee673]

I already stated I only know of classic conservatism. I am asking how conservatism is implemented right now.[/quote:ee673]

Well, lets see if i can answer your question. As far as the Government being "Conservative", i would think not just by the actions taken the past few years. Now, as far as the "people of America" and their views, i can't answer that. We have conservatives, liberals, and, unfortunately, people like yourself.

....did i answer your question or do i have to sit here all fucking night having a worthless debate with you?[/quote:ee673]

Conservatism > Liberalism

Liberalism is too idealistic and based on Utopian beliefs. Conservatism's drawback is that it is too focused on the present and is resistant to change.



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Default 06-29-2004, 12:31 AM

[quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote=Arkan][quote=Pyro][quote="Arkan":6d7a1][quote="Pyro":6d7a1][quote="Arkan":6d7a1][quote="Pyro":6d7a1]
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How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?
I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?
How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?
Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:
Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:6d7a1]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:6d7a1]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:6d7a1]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:6d7a1]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:6d7a1]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.[/quote:6d7a1]

I already stated I only know of classic conservatism. I am asking how conservatism is implemented right now.[/quote:6d7a1]

Well, lets see if i can answer your question. As far as the Government being "Conservative", i would think not just by the actions taken the past few years. Now, as far as the "people of America" and their views, i can't answer that. We have conservatives, liberals, and, unfortunately, people like yourself.

....did i answer your question or do i have to sit here all fucking night having a worthless debate with you?[/quote:6d7a1]

I guess having an open mind is a terrible thing now. You could always tell me your views on how the government is being run at this point and what you like and might like changed etc.


  
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How the fuck is this stupid, hell im suprized any of you even understood what I said.

Anyways

Classic conservative following Thomas Paine's mantra "That government is best which governs least."

Why isn't it still like this?
I dunno, why don't you ask Jesus?
How can you people follow something and know nothing about it?
Whenever i need to know what my Government has in store for me, i always look to my helpful neighbors to the north. They seem to have all the answers. oOo:
Well the federal election is tomorrow, and i'd like to know more about it befor eI choose who to vote for. I just thought i'd ask people from a country who is under conservative ideologies right now.[/quote:283cc]

Are you sure America is under conservative ideologies right now? What makes you believe that? Did you consult your nextdoor neighbor to find out what their ideas are? Do you have a problem coming to conclusions on your own that you have to consult others in different countries? How ever did you make it through school?[/quote:283cc]

Isn't Republicans on the right of the political spectrum? The opposite of the Democrast which would be on the left? In school I learned from teachers who knew what I didn't. I have basic knowledge which I showcased earlier about the original idea and history of conservatism.[/quote:283cc]

Did they teach you to be an annoying prick....or did it just come natural?
You're like a knat on my nut-sac after i moved the lawn on a hot summers day![/quote:283cc]

That doesn't answer the question.[/quote:283cc]

You tell me smart ass. Lets see how smart those teachers were.[/quote:283cc]

I already stated I only know of classic conservatism. I am asking how conservatism is implemented right now.[/quote:283cc]

Well, lets see if i can answer your question. As far as the Government being "Conservative", i would think not just by the actions taken the past few years. Now, as far as the "people of America" and their views, i can't answer that. We have conservatives, liberals, and, unfortunately, people like yourself.

....did i answer your question or do i have to sit here all fucking night having a worthless debate with you?[/quote:283cc]

Conservatism > Liberalism

Liberalism is too idealistic and based on Utopian beliefs. Conservatism's drawback is that it is too focused on the present and is resistant to change.[/quote:283cc]

Well, change is not always for the better.


  
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Default 06-29-2004, 12:33 AM

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Out of simple good faith I like to think that any decisions the US makes are in the best interest of the United States and rest of the world.[/quote:ce8c7]

You are a danger to humanity. You should be terminated.[/quote:ce8c7]

You proved it to me with that statement that you truly are an asshole. Please remember to plunge a kitchen knife through your chest the next time you're buttering a bagel !


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