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Default Delator 2.0 preview - 12-16-2002, 04:01 AM

Well, after many weeks of hard work Delator 2.0 is almost finished and currently being beta tested before release (though the final release will still be a beta, this is mohaa!).

Anyway, here you have a pair of screenshots along with some info and details and the great logo Alex created...

Delator has become two different apps: a mod generator and a classic rcon app. Both can be used separately, but when used together features are multiplied. Here's a view of the mod generator:

[img]http://www.uv.es/~astracan/moddelator.gif[/img]
  • As you can see, anti-cheat support has been enhanced.
    Map fixes can now be included (and shared) easily (by using a small form or downloading a test file). That was an idea of ChickenBoo.
    The messaging manager now resides on a server-side mod. This means you have no longer the need to run a remote app in order for the messages to be displayed. Also, you have three different priority level for messages, and three additional modes: Periodical, scheduled and per map (so that you can warn users when a custom map is going to be played).
    The scheduled commands part is also run on the game server, but, unfortunately, only linux servers are currently supported. This means you can program gametype changes or anything else and they will be done as long as the game server is running.
    The "miscellaneous" slot allows you to run other apps using DMprecache, like Dogtagz and the upcoming and most impressive CRR realism (by me biggrin: ). You can also choose to display the next map (requires DM DogTag and Rcon Delator running) and the current time on the ping screen (requires DM DogTag)

Now about the rcon part:

[img]http://www.uv.es/~astracan/rcondelator.gif[/img]

The server management part includes all the config info as well as a list of the current players (Ã* la autokick) and the ability to kick/ban any of them. It warns you if some of them is using a non-optimized connection, and also displays some additional info, like the game server OS, and includes a rcon console, so that you can type on it as if it were the server console.
The anti-cheat part... Well, you're looking at it (just a small note: it doesn't require a client part, all the processes are run on the server/rcon computer).
The Clan manager is similar to the one included on Delator 1.0, with some additional features.
The Penalties Manager allows you to custom the way you kick/ban people. You can set auto-kicks and bans (like 3 warnings = 1 kick or 3 kicks = 1 ban). Bans can be set for an indefinite amount of time or just a few days. You can also remove any warning/kick/ban on this screen.
Now Delator can be run on 'Silent Mode', meaning that all the info is logged to disk but it won't act accordingly (no warnings, no kicks, no bans).

Expect it to be available next weekend.

Regards,

YoChoy

P.D.: I called it Delator because I was sure it was an english word with a similar meaning to the spanish one. After checking my dictionary past week I know it's not biggrin: : delator(a) nm/f informer, accuser; betrayer.
  
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Default 12-16-2002, 05:18 AM

Ramon eres la puta polla!
Mis felicidades por todo tu curro, el trabajo y el esfuerzo q haces para la comunidad....eres un crack.
  
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Default 12-16-2002, 05:20 AM

jejejejejejej... (<- spanish for biggrin: )

Asias Underdog,

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Default 12-16-2002, 07:10 AM

WOW, looks good
Keep up the good work Yochoy.

I know you just made a lot of server admins out there very happy.

Please keep us up to date with the details.


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Default 12-16-2002, 10:56 AM

Holy crap. That's going to be excellent.
  
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Default 12-16-2002, 11:18 AM

Not to break the party guys but will delator 2.0 detect renamed skins to original skin names? this would be a great feature if its in, is it?

and will it work for demo too?

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Default 12-16-2002, 11:40 AM

Don't know if thats possible.

Yochoy, I'm about 99.9% positive this cant be done, but if Delator could read the .PK3 files that have the skin layouts, and could check to see if a texture has a neon color, (example, RGB 255,0,0), and it could boot the person if the skin contained this color. Like I said, im almost sure thats impossible, but would be great.
  
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Default 12-16-2002, 11:45 AM

That's a very good question indeed. Nope, it won't detect alterations on the original paks. That's because the only way to do that (to my knowledge) is using a client/server architecture (i.e.: every client connecting to a delator server should have a delator client; if he doesn't have one, he gets kicked). I don't like such schema at all, most people out there is fair and should be free to enter any servers.

The other way to go is of course sv_pure, but Spearhead is just arrived to Spain and I'm not sure how useful it can be (but I will discover it soon ;-) ). Right now Delator is built for MoHaa classic, but as our clan will soon move to Spearhead, an updated version should be available by then.

And yes, most features should work on Spearhead demo (though I haven't tested that). All of them, but those which require a linux server in order to work. And one thing to note: Most of the cheats detected by Delator 2.0 work also on the demo and cannot be prevented via sv_pure (that was one of the reasons I implemented them).

I'm not saying it's perfect: I know it can be fooled for sure. However 90% of the cheaters out there don't know how / don't dare to alter his system to make it immune, and that's better than nothing :-)

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Default 12-16-2002, 11:54 AM

[quote:47a55]Yochoy, I'm about 99.9% positive this cant be done, but if Delator could read the .PK3 files that have the skin layouts, and could check to see if a texture has a neon color[/quote:47a55]

Maybe it's possible, but I don't know how. There's a lot of problems related to this, the main one maybe the server should download the pk3 from the client or upload a delator plug-in to it in order to open the file. Also, I must say I wouldn't feel comfortable should a mohaa server have the ability to upload code to my computer and then run it... If there's a way to do that I prefer not to be the one opening the Pandora's box...

Though I have heard terrible things about Spearhead sv_pure, my hopes are with it. Maybe it can be tweaked or complemented in some way to make it work properly... I hope so :-)

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Default 12-16-2002, 11:57 AM

I can't wait for this man. I'm so sick of all the cheaters that come in our server when the Gen's arent around. You can totally tell they use wallhack when they start shooting at doors 3 seconds before the person walks in. LoL, hell yea man can't wait.
  
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Default 12-16-2002, 01:35 PM

OH SWEET MERCIFUL JESUS! 1 MORE WEEK?

IT WILL BE A TRULY MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Please dont forget to include a link to dl site, please.

Thanks for all your hard work YoChoy, your efforts have consistently picked up where EA left off, and are sincerely appreciated by thousands and thousands of people every day. Keep up the good work bro!
  
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Default 12-16-2002, 01:39 PM

Well, it's official: Delator 2.0 has caught the first cheater!!!

He was using nofog on my server, and I must say I'm so happy I've forgiven him. Now the thing is about to go Gold, but the code is so complex I need to run the final version for some days before being confident enough to release it. But right now it looks pretty good (I know, I know, I shut up now biggrin

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Default 12-16-2002, 01:55 PM

That's great man. Excellent work.
  
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Default 12-16-2002, 02:02 PM

Nice.

I have a question regarding fog. I was on a server where there was some bickering over cheating. One guy said that he didnt see the fog/haze because he had his colors set at 32 bit. Hmmm....so do I, yet I see fog. Then he went on to say it was because he had a GF2. Hmmm... I used to run a gf2 with 32 bit color. The he claimed it was because it was a gf2 MX. Well, I dont have one of those, but it still sounds like bs to me. Any thoughts or does anyone know if the gf2mx will clear the fog if you use 32 bit color? Under what conditions will a video card not display fog? I know this is off topic but it looked like a good place to ask.
  
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Default 12-16-2002, 02:13 PM

Wow..it's christmas.. hopefully a bit early. Can't wait. As has already been said, thanks for all your work. It is greatly appreciated.
  
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