[Jotun]

i dont own a gun, and i really dont feel the need for one. i can see why people would want to own a gun for recreational purposes like hunting....but other than that, i dont really see the point to owning one. do you really feel that unsafe in your neighborhood that you need to have something that will kill? i dont know, i can see both sides of the argument, maybe one day i'll grow some balls and commit to one side of the argument.

[ninty]

It doesn't really matter if you see a point to it or not. The issue is allowing law abiding citizens to own them for whatever purpose.

[1080jibber]

human emotion is a powerful thing. we go through so many emotion during the day, now put a gun in front of one of those emotions.

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by 1080jibber

human emotion is a powerful thing. we go through so many emotion during the day, now put a gun in front of one of those emotions.

I don't understand your logic. There are millions of personnel (cops, agents, military, hunters, citizens....etc) in this country armed this very second. Are we in danger because one of them may get angry over a rusted paperclip?

"Normal" people know how to deal with the ups and downs of everyday emotions. Only the "unstable people" have trouble coping. Are you one of them?

[[DAS REICH] Blitz]

Originally Posted by Arkan

I don't understand your logic. There are millions of personnel (cops, agents, military, hunters, citizens....etc) in this country armed this very second. Are we in danger because one of them may get angry over a rusted paperclip?

"Normal" people know how to deal with the ups and downs of everyday emotions. Only the "unstable people" have trouble coping. Are you one of them?

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[Tripper]

Originally Posted by Arkan

I don't understand your logic. There are millions of personnel (cops, agents, military, hunters, citizens....etc) in this country armed this very second. Are we in danger because one of them may get angry over a rusted paperclip?

"Normal" people know how to deal with the ups and downs of everyday emotions. Only the "unstable people" have trouble coping. Are you one of them?

I can help you understand his logic, just imagine that the person he figuratively puts a gun in front of is one of your 'unstable people.'

[elstatec]

guns are retarded. and the right to own a gun is retarded even though i believe in freedom todo what you want. guns = problems. so if guns are illegal then there will be less guns around to cause such problems even if those bad guys would always be able to obtain them, because most of those weekly school shootings you get out there seem to be legally obtained.

[Simo Häyhä]

Originally Posted by elstatec

guns are retarded. and the right to own a gun is retarded even though i believe in freedom todo what you want. guns = problems. so if guns are illegal then there will be less guns around to cause such problems even if those bad guys would always be able to obtain them, because most of those weekly school shootings you get out there seem to be legally obtained.

Fuck you asshole. Fuck you.

[Chronic Diarrhea]

Originally Posted by elst=atec

guns are retarded. and the right to own a gun is retarded even though i believe in freedom todo what you want. guns = problems. so if guns are illegal then there will be less guns around to cause such problems even if those bad guys would always be able to obtain them, because most of those weekly school shootings you get out there seem to be legally obtained.

By that same logic we should ban video games and violent music, since many people think video games cause problems. We should also ban alcohol, since many people who drink also drive drunk, and that's dangerous. Let's ban sex too, because far more people die from STDs than homicides with a firearm every year.

We shouldn't have to live in a country where our government feels the need to hold our hands from cradle to grave.

BTW, many school shooting incidents come from weapons that were done on a straw purchase, which is buying it indirectly through 1 or more people and it's illegal. Columbine was a straw purchase.

[1080jibber]

Originally Posted by Arkan

I don't understand your logic. There are millions of personnel (cops, agents, military, hunters, citizens....etc) in this country armed this very second. Are we in danger because one of them may get angry over a rusted paperclip?

"Normal" people know how to deal with the ups and downs of everyday emotions. Only the "unstable people" have trouble coping. Are you one of them?

I'm just say that anything can set us off, even yourself could be that person.
one day you may find your wife cheating on you, or you could lose your job, or that one guy at work that just keeps harassing you, or someone cuts you off in traffic. Your not just a danger to other, your also a danger to yourself.
You can sit there and say that wont be you, but normal people flip out too not just unstable people. It just takes one thing to make you the normal guy to the unstable guy.

[strvs]

Originally Posted by 1080jibber

I'm just say that anything can set us off, even yourself could be that person.
one day you may find your wife cheating on you, or you could lose your job, or that one guy at work that just keeps harassing you, or someone cuts you off in traffic. Your not just a danger to other, your also a danger to yourself.
You can sit there and say that wont be you, but normal people flip out too not just unstable people. It just takes one thing to make you the normal guy to the unstable guy.

i don't think guns have any relevance to this really, if they don't pick up a gun they're going to get a knife, bat, shovel etc.. normal people have been snapping for thousands of years.. it happens

i just don't see what guns have to do with it

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by 1080jibber

I'm just say that anything can set us off, even yourself could be that person.
one day you may find your wife cheating on you, or you could lose your job, or that one guy at work that just keeps harassing you, or someone cuts you off in traffic. Your not just a danger to other, your also a danger to yourself.
You can sit there and say that wont be you, but normal people flip out too not just unstable people. It just takes one thing to make you the normal guy to the unstable guy.

No, if i ever get that angry, i'll grab the person by the throat and squeeze the life out of them. Killing with a gun is for pussies.

...and if i lose my job, lady cheats on me, or i get cut off in traffic, that's nothing to lose your lid over. Be a man and suck it up.
Kill my kid however, now you have a problem.

[Bean 2]

Certainly if more kids had guns in Columbine or Virginia Tech, maybe they could have defended themselves during those fateful and tragic days. We should arm ourselves and our children with firearms for our protection. And im not talking about pussy ass pistols, im talking about huge automatic assault rifles. It may turn into a popularity thing at schools, like who has the bigger or cooler gun, but the positives surely outweigh the negatives. Also a class should be mandatory teaching children better accuracy with those guns if they ever need to use those guns. Vote Republican and God bless.

[anti]

Originally Posted by Arkan

No, if i ever get that angry, i'll grab the person by the throat and squeeze the life out of them. Killing with a gun is for pussies.

...and if i lose my job, lady cheats on me, or i get cut off in traffic, that's nothing to lose your lid over. Be a man and suck it up.
Kill my kid however, now you have a problem.

you're so tough.


i don't have an opinion. i would imagine i might feel safer walking through a dangerous neighbourhood with a gun in my pocket; but i would imagine i'd feel pretty uncomfortable if some dude had a gun in his pocket sitting next to me at chuck-y-cheeses. no, it's not that i'm a pussy. i grew up with shotguns and rifles. it's just that the idea of everyone walking around with guns makes me feel uncomfortable. i don't know. no handguns here in canadaland and it's working out quite well.

Originally Posted by Bean 2

Certainly if more kids had guns in Columbine or Virginia Tech, maybe they could have defended themselves during those fateful and tragic days.

pointless argument. those kids we're fucked up. they would have found other ways to take out their targets if everyone in class was carrying. making bombs can't be hard.

[Sniper101]

My opinion is if the government tries to take away our guns there will be a big uproar. I dont per say live in an area that i need to protect myself from other people, but due to the fact that i live in a very rural area with livestock of sorts having a gun to protect them should the need arise is necessary. Im not one to hunt but i do enjoy the sport of shooting at a target, clay pigeon or a paper target. Would i shoot someone would tried to harm me or my family, without a second thought.

Going to arkans comment about 'unstable people,' he's pretty much nailed the issue on the head, with a few exceptions. Yes its the emotionally unstable people that shouldnt weeld a gun, or those that have know psychiatric problems ie anti-social personality disorder, sociopath. Though anyone, previously labled stable or not can snap under severe circumstances, the people with these disorders are know to snap very easily and these are the disorders you often find people having who are serial murderers, assault-rapists etc. then again thats like labeling a person a criminal even if they have never commited any crime prior. I say the government spend less on the 'drug' war and more on the gun war, taking down black market dealers. at the same time the likelihood is theyd take down drug dealers as well