My "Matrix: Reloaded" review (MAJOR SPOILERS) - Page 11

Bazooka_Joe · 05-29-2003, 08:51 AM

[quote="Gothic_child180":fba23][quote="Bazooka_Joe":fba23]Silver kills vampires.[/quote:fba23]

Thats Werewolves. Crosses, wooden stakes, garlic, and sunlight kill vampires. Also a cutting a vampire in half down the middle with an enchanted sword seems to kill weaker vampires(Vamp. Hunter D).[/quote:fba23]

Someone didn't watch Blade. hake:

They're highly allergic to silver, and all of the stakes Blade uses are made of silver.

LoneGunner87 · 05-29-2003, 10:44 AM

For some reason people were confused about the matrix since they dont get it very much.

Airborne Butters · 05-29-2003, 01:18 PM

Haven't you fools seen Blade?! HE has silver bullets,silver spikes and silver swords!

Sicilian_Summers · 05-30-2003, 03:49 PM

Hmm..

After reading the Architect/Neo conversation one more time, I do not think it is absolutely certain that the Oracle is the "Mother of the Matrix". It was never reiterated by the Architect, and I personally think this program he was speaking of was the Merovingian's girlfriend. Perhpaps she knew a thing or two about human psyche..

pest · 06-02-2003, 01:25 PM

[quote="Stinger_Dude":933be]No also silver kills vampires.[/quote:933be]

Depends on whose book you are reading.

Anyway, i just saw the movie a couple of days ago. I left teh theater pissed at how sorry it was. Too much fluff (rave scene) and the fight scenes were too long. How is 9 minutes of neo fighting 100 A. Smiths, better than 4? No, those arent the actual lenght, but I found myself getting bored with the "action". Reading this thread has sparked my interest a little, but I can understand why this film isnt, and wont, be the success that the first one was.

I am questioning some of the conclusions I had after seeing the movie now.

I also have a couple of questions that just dont make sense. -

- If neo can stop bullets, why cant he stop a fist????

- If the key maker and the oracle are so resigned to fate, "whatever will happen, will happen", then why do they fear for themselves so much? The keymaker runs at the first sign of danger, and the oracle has a body guard to protect her although all decisions have already been made.

Although I dont buy the 2 matrix idea, what it there are 2 matirxes - one for the 99.5% that are content with the life the matrix provides, and a secondone for the .5% that cant deal with it?

Also, why let "awakened" humans live. If the arcitect knows that minds are awakened to populate zion, why let the machinces let them live. Why not kill neo when he was awakened instead of flushing him? The few lives lost like that would certainly be better than 6 system anomolies. Of course there would be no movie if that happened, but it seems like a big hole to me.

Sicilian_Summers · 06-02-2003, 07:23 PM

Neo should have kicked the architect's ass.

Stinger_Dude · 06-05-2003, 10:19 AM

Get your questions answered here.

http://bones.proboards9.com/index.cgi?board=matrix

Lots of interesting discussion. The one I find interesting the significance and importance of Agent Smith. Perhaps he is the anomoly. Perhaps the Matrix needs to be reloaded due to this rogue Program.

Tiwaz · 06-05-2003, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pest

Anyway, i just saw the movie a couple of days ago. I left teh theater pissed at how sorry it was. Too much fluff (rave scene) and the fight scenes were too long. How is 9 minutes of neo fighting 100 A. Smiths, better than 4? No, those arent the actual lenght, but I found myself getting bored with the "action". Reading this thread has sparked my interest a little, but I can understand why this film isnt, and wont, be the success that the first one was.

I am questioning some of the conclusions I had after seeing the movie now.

I also have a couple of questions that just dont make sense. -

- If neo can stop bullets, why cant he stop a fist????

- If the key maker and the oracle are so resigned to fate, "whatever will happen, will happen", then why do they fear for themselves so much? The keymaker runs at the first sign of danger, and the oracle has a body guard to protect her although all decisions have already been made.

Although I dont buy the 2 matrix idea, what it there are 2 matirxes - one for the 99.5% that are content with the life the matrix provides, and a secondone for the .5% that cant deal with it?

Also, why let "awakened" humans live. If the arcitect knows that minds are awakened to populate zion, why let the machinces let them live. Why not kill neo when he was awakened instead of flushing him? The few lives lost like that would certainly be better than 6 system anomolies. Of course there would be no movie if that happened, but it seems like a big hole to me.

I liked the movie, the fighting scenes were cool. Not too long for me.

About all those questions: Valid questions. I have them as well.

I'd say: It is just a movie. People are making too much of it. It is not real. Define real. Blah blah. The way I see it: Awesome movie, story has many flaws, the lovescene was way too long, and Morpheus's speech is an example of some serious bad acting. But like I said, all in all an awesome movie. Liked part 1 better though.

Stinger_Dude · 06-06-2003, 10:31 AM

Dl Animatrix of kazaa. It really clears alot of things up of MAtrix Reloaded.

Chango · 06-06-2003, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pest

I also have a couple of questions that just dont make sense. -

- If neo can stop bullets, why cant he stop a fist????

A bullet is controlled by the matrix, a fist is controlled by the avatar/program

Quote:

Originally Posted by pest

-If the key maker and the oracle are so resigned to fate, "whatever will happen, will happen", then why do they fear for themselves so much? The keymaker runs at the first sign of danger, and the oracle has a body guard to protect her although all decisions have already been made.

they aren't resigned to "whatever will happen will happen" they are resigned to keeping their purpose, the keymaker was fine with dieing because what he was supposed to do was done(give the key to the source to Neo)

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Originally Posted by pest

Although I dont buy the 2 matrix idea, what it there are 2 matirxes - one for the 99.5% that are content with the life the matrix provides, and a secondone for the .5% that cant deal with it?

It makes sense for the machines to have a second matrix since they know there's a bug with the humans that'll make them not accept the matrix, but we'll find out in Revolutions

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Originally Posted by pest

Also, why let "awakened" humans live. If the arcitect knows that minds are awakened to populate zion, why let the machinces let them live. Why not kill neo when he was awakened instead of flushing him? The few lives lost like that would certainly be better than 6 system anomolies. Of course there would be no movie if that happened, but it seems like a big hole to me.

for all we know there could be some AIs that bitch about killing innocent humans so they let them have a slim chance of living if they get awakened (remember they just dump them into the sewers, if there wasn't a ship to rescue them they'd drown)