Chechen Terrorists Kill Hostage in Moscow Theater Siege - Page 2

Totenkopf · 10-24-2002, 02:31 PM

Raining bombs and missiles down on civilian targets is terrorism. The U.S., Russia, and Israel are all guilty of terrorism. History is written by the winners. Take some time to open your eyes and look around. Don't believe everything you read.

Green, I see you snivel for all the innocent lives lost in Isreal, and now Russia. Why don't you feel for the women and children who have been killed in Palestine and Chechnya? Are they not deserving of your sympathy? What did they do to deserve being killed?

Again, I don't condone terrorism by any means, but let's call out all terrorism. Funny how people get all up in arms, when the shit goes down in their backyards.

Low spark · 10-24-2002, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pest

Terrorism is the last resort of radicals that dont have enough support to do things the right way. Its Cowardice. If they really were brave, why dont they take on the russian military? If they were going to die for their cause anyway, why take civilians with them, why not show true dedication and strike a valid target. Now the world sympathizes with russia and isnt interested in the reasons. Instead of gaining support they lose credibility. Rightfully so in my opinion.

Well said pest.

SoLiDUS · 10-24-2002, 02:52 PM

Indeed. Well said...

pest · 10-24-2002, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Totenkopf

Raining bombs and missiles down on civilian targets is terrorism. The U.S., Russia, and Israel are all guilty of terrorism. History is written by the winners. Take some time to open your eyes and look around. Don't believe everything you read.

But why? Are these countries bombing civilian targets to make a statement or are civilians really the target? The answer is almost always no. They are targeting terrorist/guerilla assets that seek refuge in civilian areas. Its a win/win situation for the terrorists. If they dont get bombed they win. If they do get bombed, they can claim civilian casualties to further their cause, and win. Again, this is cowardice to me. They are selfishly exposing civilian targets to further their cause.

zverushka · 10-24-2002, 02:56 PM

I think Russia should send a couple of bombers to bomb the Chechnyan moountains with 30 vacuum bombs to eradicate them off th face if the planet and get rid of one more problem in the world.

Then, I think Israel should dump vaccuum bombs on arafat and palestinians.

Then, I think that the US should drop 100 vaccuum bombs on Iraq, and then give 60 billion dollars of oil money they earn to Russia. Iraq owed russia 60 billion dollars cuz Russia dumped there old tanks and artillery in the middle east.

Pfc.Green · 10-24-2002, 03:04 PM

I see politcal correctness coming...

Low spark · 10-24-2002, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zverushka

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Then, I think that the US should drop 100 vaccuum bombs on Iraq, and then give 60 billion dollars of oil money they earn to Russia. Iraq owed russia 60 billion dollars cuz Russia dumped there old tanks and artillery in the middle east.

America won't give Russia it's profits we have to get are money back for arming Iraq when it was to our atvantage to have Saddam as a ally.

zverushka · 10-24-2002, 03:39 PM

OK then, Russia won't support US if it won't get its money back.

10-24-2002, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Totenkopf

More individuals driven to desperate measures because of invasion of their land. hake:

uh, Checneya was part of the Russian Federation, then they created their own "government" and claimed independence, remember what the US did when certain states tried this around the 1860s.

Also think about what would happen if say Texas, or California said now that they are a separate country, they would quickly be sorrounded by the USN and USMC from the sea, the Army from the land borders and the Air Force and Navy air from above.

ninty · 10-24-2002, 05:48 PM

Just like the god damn quebeckers.

SoLiDUS · 10-24-2002, 06:01 PM

Quebec was a stupid story... all in the name of a fuckin' language.

"Oui, mesdames et messieurs! Notre langue, quelle belle langue! Nous
devons absolument la proteger, la preserver a tout prix, que cela soit par
separation ou par guerre. Etant donne notre manque de ressource, il serait
plus plausible de separer du reste du Canada, qui est d'avantage composes
d' anglais!

Maudite tetes carrees!!"

LOL.

Totenkopf · 10-24-2002, 07:56 PM

Let Texas sucede...I could give a rat's ass.

I don't know much about the Chechnya situation, but it is my guess that though they were once part of a greater Russia, that it was once an enclave of similiar people (be it religion, language, etc) that was forced into a larger union. Almost every conflict that we see in the present is due to some "Superpower" coming into an area and carving out boundries that give no thought to the make-up of the people invovled (i.e. Yugoslavia, Palestine, etc). So these people are forced to live together, the Superpower goes on it's merry way, and all hell breaks loose. History has proven this time and time again.

As for terrorists tactics. You can look at it however you want, sure cowardice to hide among the civilian population. But what would you call a man with a machine gun facing a tank? Stupid. Second, a terrorist hides out in a civilian building...F#ck it, let's blow up the whole building from 2,000 miles away with a cruise missle. Yeah, we killed a terrorist, but just created a hundred more enemies. It's a cycle that will not end.

What's the solution? Sh!t, I don't know. All I know is if you are gonna play with fire, then you are gonna get burned. Let me ask, what would you do in their situation? And don't give me the BS, really think about it.

Arkan · 10-24-2002, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zverushka

I think Russia should send a couple of bombers to bomb the Chechnyan moountains with 30 vacuum bombs to eradicate them off th face if the planet and get rid of one more problem in the world.

Then, I think Israel should dump vaccuum bombs on arafat and palestinians.

Then, I think that the US should drop 100 vaccuum bombs on Iraq, and then give 60 billion dollars of oil money they earn to Russia. Iraq owed russia 60 billion dollars cuz Russia dumped there old tanks and artillery in the middle east.

Right on my Russian brother !! Perhaps you and I should talk world ideas over a brew......how 'bout it.

10-24-2002, 10:14 PM

NOTE: for those of you who don't speak Russian, vacuum bombs are another term for FAEs (Fuel Air Explosives), when they go off they suck all teh air out of a region while burning it, kinda liek a flamethrower, thus the term vacuum bomb.

*the resident weaponry expert strikes again*

SoLiDUS · 10-24-2002, 10:22 PM

What DO you want them to do anyway ?

Terrorist demand: end war now or 150 people die.

Politicians: ????????????????????????????????????