The bloodiest, most devastaing battle of WW2... - Page 2

Recycled Spooge · 06-21-2001, 02:28 AM

Plus, all the best German soldiers were in the eastern front. All the trainees were on the western front since there was no action there.

BallisticWookie · 06-21-2001, 02:51 AM

Most definately the Normandy beaches.

Recycled Spooge · 06-21-2001, 02:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wolfshook:
Of course they fought in the East, for the most part. Germany was at war...any division available fought. No division just sat around, unless they needed to be refitted with men and equipment.

And, most of those divisions were there before the invasion. They were just not released, by Hitler, to counterattack the Allies on the beach.

Panzer Lehr: Stationed in France, beginning May, 1944.

21st Panzer Division: Stationed in France, beginning July, 1943.

352nd Infantry Division: Stationed in France, beginning November 1943.

3rd Fallschirmjager: Stationed in France, beginning October 1943.

116th Panzer Division "Windhund": Stationed in France, beginning March 1944.

12th SS "Hitlerjugend": Stationed in France, beginning April 1944.

1st SS "LAH": Stationed in Belgium, and arrived in France, July 27-28th. This late date of arrival is only due to the allied airpower in the area. If that had not been the case, the 1st SS would have arrived much sooner. However, the 101st SS Scwhere Panzer Abteilung, belonging to the 1st SS, began fighting the Allies on June 13th.

2nd SS "Das Reich": Stationed in France, beginning January 1944.

Sorry, but you were wrong, for the most part. Germany knew the Allies were coming. However, they had to put most of their divisions on the Eastern Front, because his forces were so overwhelmed. They did have elite forces in western europe, and were ready for the Allies. However, they just didn't have enough of those forces, to do anything more than stall the Allies, until they could retreat back to Germany.

Sorry, but I just had to correct you.

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Recycled Spooge · 06-21-2001, 03:03 AM

But they still send lots of trainees to France before the Normandy invasion. When were most of these divisions actually used in combat?

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Recycled Spooge · 06-21-2001, 03:06 AM

I know that the Germans knew the allies were going to invade, since they were building a wall on the coast of France.

Gen. Rommel · 06-21-2001, 04:03 AM

So we're only dealing with how much blood is spilled? Then I don't like the question...then why not just say Nagasaki and Hiroshima. I bet more people were blown to bits in those two cities than on the beaches.

Wolfshook · 06-21-2001, 04:11 AM

Actually, everyone interpreted it as literally meaning blood. That's not really what I'd intended. I meant, sheer brutality, death tolls, and conditions of the battlefield.

But, if you guys want to talk about blood, that's fine. It's just not really what I was going for.

They are your opinions, though, and I guess the question was a subjective one.

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Recycled Spooge · 06-21-2001, 04:29 AM

Anyone know how many Soviets were lost at Stalingrad?

Gen. Rommel · 06-21-2001, 07:14 AM

I'm reading a book about the battle of Stalingrad...but I just started it and have not even gotten into the actual battle. But I looked in some of my other books and I found a few figures.

German Deaths: At least 247,000 Germans died. And Two Rumanian, one Italian and one Hungarian army were destroyed.

I couldn't find Russian numbers..but I'll be looking.

Recycled Spooge · 06-21-2001, 07:24 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gen. Rommel:
I'm reading a book about the battle of Stalingrad...but I just started it and have not even gotten into the actual battle. But I looked in some of my other books and I found a few figures.

German Deaths: At least 247,000 Germans died. And Two Rumanian, one Italian and one Hungarian army were destroyed.

I couldn't find Russian numbers..but I'll be looking.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, I'm also having troube finding the Soviet deaths.

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Gen. Rommel · 06-21-2001, 07:31 AM

There reason for this may be because of the amount of civilian, Militia, and general troops is so staggering that you can't get a positive number.

Polaris · 06-21-2001, 07:32 AM

can anyone tell me what happened on Operation Tiger , about some practice mission the allied troops were doing and they all died or something , i saw the last part of it on the history channel , (great blunders in history) , but i missed most of it .

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Ludacris · 06-21-2001, 10:17 AM

its not a battle but ill go with operation overlord.

Gen. Rommel · 06-21-2001, 10:47 AM

I don't know..the beaches were brutal...but that taking of the beach didn't last more than a week. I mean by the end of the week the Allies had a stronghold on the beach. But Stalingrad was slow, and brutal. I mean..there were Russian troops who fought with no weapons, and plenty of men were dying of hunger and illnesses. And the fighting was probably the most brutal. The German army had been brainwashed to look at the Russian as nothing but a mere bug that needed to be crush and THEN burned.

Gen. Rommel · 06-21-2001, 10:58 AM

The Battle of Stalingrad...hands down. THAT was the bloodiest battle...and one of the most important battles. That battle was truly hell...men were starving and dying of diseases so they can hold the city named after their leader who can be blamed for the diasters that occured when the Germans invaded.