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Default 05-24-2003, 11:48 PM

you wanted proof? here, quoted from the M1 carbine thread:

Hobbs:

"see if I made it an m1 it would reload like an m1...."

hobbs clearly stated that he made it.

guarnere:

Well i helped Hobbs make that model ... and he cant release it...sorry
helped him make it? MAKE it? i dont think so.
  
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Default 05-24-2003, 11:52 PM

copywrite # please.......
and btw no model i have ever relased has not given credit to the modlers.
so ur point is invalid.
  
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Default 05-24-2003, 11:52 PM

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Well i helped Hobbs make that model ... and he cant release it...sorry.
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:01 AM

you wanted proof? here, quoted from the M1 carbine thread:

Hobbs:

"see if I made it an m1 it would reload like an m1...."

hobbs clearly stated that he made it.

guarnere:

Well i helped Hobbs make that model ... and he cant release it...sorry
helped him make it? MAKE it? i dont think so.
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:04 AM

whoops posted twice biggrin:
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:04 AM

Again. You cannot lay claim to anything without REAL documentation. I don' t like it either, but lets face the facts... You HAVE to copywrite this stuff, DON'T release it and not expect it to get stolen or re done or re skinned.
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:06 AM

make as in put in game...i helped him through a program called VNC...thats how i taught him how to convert shit...arent i allowed a few typing mistakes
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:09 AM

Never argue with idiots, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience(c)

You guys have been caught stealing a copyrighted work of an artist. At least apologize and admit your mistake, so you can keep your dignity. Is it so much work to ask someone permission, in the Day of Defeat community I've never heard anyone turn down a request, ever. And I've been registered since late beta 1.3.
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:09 AM

what is VNC!
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:11 AM

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Never argue with idiots, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience(c)

You guys have been caught stealing a copyrighted work of an artist. At least apologize and admit your mistake, so you can keep your dignity. Is it so much work to ask someone permission, in the Day of Defeat community I've never heard anyone turn down a request, ever. And I've been registered since late beta 1.3.
Listen fuckface post the copywrite number and I will beleive you.
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:12 AM

[quote="GEN COBRA":bbc0c]Again. You cannot lay claim to anything without REAL documentation. I don' t like it either, but lets face the facts... You HAVE to copywrite this stuff, DON'T release it and not expect it to get stolen or re done or re skinned.[/quote:bbc0c]

so lets see.. how many sigs can i steal without pissing anyone off? you did make yours dident you? just makin sure, i wanna see your reaction when something of yours is taken. btw this is MY sig now. i have no idea what it is, but scince its not copywrited, i guess ill take it.

the point im making is, if your gonna do something like that, at least have the common decency to say it isnt yours. btw this little predicament has gotten out of hand. im sure you are all good people, and have made your share of mistakes, intended or not. but there are others around here who have stolen work and tried to claim it as thier own, and im wondering why nothing has been done to stop it.
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:12 AM

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copywrite # please.......
and btw no model i have ever relased has not given credit to the modlers.
so ur point is invalid.
You live in the United States? It's federal law that any work, such as models, maps, etc, are copyrighted. And I beleive you're thinking of Patent Number, and it's not the first model.

I also feel this must be stated, posted on the DoD boards(don't even think you can get away with the shit you can here, we have strict rules)
[quote:bcb5e]I just find it rather hilarious that MOHaa'ers find our Quake1/2 engine DoD models so far superior to the Quake3 engine MOH models that they steal them....

That really says something about the quality of DoD modellers. You guys are fighting past super crappy engine limitations and making better models than people with a better engine and more modeling options (not to mention the default models made by so-called professionals)....
[/quote:bcb5e]
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 12:34 AM

So far through all of that you haven't proven to me that any model posted here is even remotely yours.
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 01:43 AM

http://www.rhetorical.com/cgi-bin/demo. ... voice=M001



Written by =DD=Wolf Kahler

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Public domain - not! When visiting a web site, it is so easy to click and save with a mouse button when one sees a graphic image that one likes, or to view the source code and copy part of or all of the HTML coding because one "likes the way this or that was done" or one "wants a similar layout", or to copy original writings because "that person expresses this or that so well". The general (and incorrect) notion is that anything that is on the internet is public domain and may be taken without permission from the creator/owner. Some people actually think (incorrectly) that just because bits of web pages may be stored in one's cache, or because certain browsers allow one to do "file save as" moves or anything similar one may use such material as one wishes. This is false.

Just because your driveway is not inside of your house, is it in the public domain? Does that give anybody off the street the right to stay on your driveway without your permission, even if they can see it from the street, or easily access it? The same basic principle applies to material published on the internet. Material found on the web may be copied freely only if the information is created by the (i) federal government, (ii) if the copyright has expired or (iii) the copyright has been abandoned by the holder. Therefore, "internet" and "public domain" are not synonymous. Any work published on the internet is not automatically placed it in the public domain, unless the material in question complies with one or more of the characteristics mentioned.
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In a nutshell, that means copyrights only need legal registration if there's money involved. For custom DoD models, there is no money, but it's still intellectual property in the guise of art.

Mind you, I'm in violation of that guy's copyrights by pasting that in a non-printed medium, though it is for research and education.

It is also a legal concern to convert any property to be used in DoD, whether it be from a paid dev team or someone's free custom work. If you can see it, hear it, smell it or touch it, it's probably copyrighted.

The term, "copyright," is derived from the fact that the person who owns the copyright has the "right" to "duplicate" ["copy"] the intelectual property covered by said legal right. That was the original intention of that particular right. You own it, you can sell or otherwise distribute it however you want. To do that, you probably have to make copies.

The law is quite clear [and this isn't the first time I've seen it] in that you do NOT need to pay a registration fee in order to own intelectual property. However, that registration fee allows you to seek monetary remuneration for violations of the copyright you own should you so desire [and are able to build a convincing enough case that the violations damaged you and your rights to such a degree that monetary remuneration is the only possible comfort you can attain].
  
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Default 05-25-2003, 01:46 AM

Like I said. 0 proof.
  
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