who Hates Shotguns!! - Page 2

Short Hand · 11-09-2003, 02:29 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":7e026]

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Originally Posted by YourFragged

yah i agree.. another thing they should look at is fixing how quickly you can scope with a sniper rifle.. its so easy to see a target, scope, and hes dead within a second. being a sniper, i wouldnt mind having a delayed scope to make it a little easier for bolt action rifles to have a CHANCE at firing at you. otherwise, the bolt action is of no effect from distance.

yeah, at least in COD you can't run and snipe, and the scope is a little wobbly if you're standing.[/quote:7e026]

I think cod sniper rifle scopes need a even bigger delay. /Rifles dont do enough damage for some reason i make a direct shot with a sniper in the chest = dead Direct shot with kar in the chest and the guy lives some how....

Hobbes · 11-09-2003, 02:41 PM

Well I've noticed that no matter what game you play there are always those who instead of figuering away of beating a weapon they try to get it banned.

COD:

Sniper Rifle.

Russain PPSH - the deadliest cqc weapon in COD that can burn through a 70 round clip almost faster then the MP40 or Thompson can go through a 30 round clip.

Halo:

Fuel Rod Gun - Last time I checked the ban this thread was 6 pages.

Pistol - yup pistol owns in Halo

Raven Sheild:

L85A1 - Assault Rifle built in scope and with slincer has 100% stabilty which is an important factor in this game.

Short Hand · 11-09-2003, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobbes

Well I've noticed that no matter what game you play there are always those who instead of figuering away of beating a weapon they try to get it banned.

COD:

Sniper Rifle.

Russain PPSH - the deadliest cqc weapon in COD that can burn through a 70 round clip almost faster then the MP40 or Thompson can go through a 30 round clip.

Halo:

Fuel Rod Gun - Last time I checked the ban this thread was 6 pages.

Pistol - yup pistol owns in Halo

Raven Sheild:

L85A1 - Assault Rifle built in scope and with slincer has 100% stabilty which is an important factor in this game.

im not to fond of the ppsh. It may burn bulles faster then a lighter to an aerosol can, but its range is horrible. most rifle men with a bit of skill can pick um off easily before they can get up close and do any real damage.

-as for snipers like i said the scope is great/ realistic but the delay in geting the scope to your eye is to short making for like in mohaa making snap shot snipers where you have almost no chance against even in short and long range engagements. beer: cheers. 1.1 patch shall be interesting when it arrives.

YourFragged · 11-09-2003, 04:00 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":69a14]

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Originally Posted by YourFragged

yah i agree.. another thing they should look at is fixing how quickly you can scope with a sniper rifle.. its so easy to see a target, scope, and hes dead within a second. being a sniper, i wouldnt mind having a delayed scope to make it a little easier for bolt action rifles to have a CHANCE at firing at you. otherwise, the bolt action is of no effect from distance.

yeah, at least in COD you can't run and snipe, and the scope is a little wobbly if you're standing.[/quote:69a14]

yah thast one thing i like about it. not being able to run

Zoner · 11-10-2003, 10:11 AM

Sweet jeezus, not this again.

pest · 11-10-2003, 10:40 AM

People like the original poster are what make shotguns such a joy to use. hellfire:

Ron · 11-10-2003, 04:47 PM

i don't mind shotgun when realism is on...in realism you have to be right on top of the person to get good shots...like in real life.
But i'm sure everyone knows what i'm talking about in maps such as the missle complex in which people just run around with their shotguns and blast everyone with one or 2 shots your dead...So what happenes? EVERYONE ends up using a shotgun...which is absolutely retarded.

The other things is this...[quote="Sgt Stryker":2dec4]
notice that MOST (not all, Fragged) shotgun users simply refuse to use any other gun because they'll get owned.[/quote:2dec4]

My sentiments EXACTLY I can't stand it when i put like 5 or 6 shots froma BAR into a guy and fires like once or twice and downs me. they then talk shit like they are good but really...put anything else in their hands and they'll get so owned they will think others are cheating!! haha

I have no problem with any other weapons...rockets are fine and quite usefull if you have like 5 snipers per bunker on the omaha map. snipers are annoying...but at least you know it takes skill.

Pvt Flagg · 11-10-2003, 05:28 PM

sorry if we shotgun users piss the rest of you off by playing the game the way thay made it ..

ohh i got killed by a person useing a stock weapon ..now im gona cry ...

wah ..i hate rockets..but i alow rockets on all 3 of my servers..why ..cause its part of the game..

dont play then bitch cause sameone choses to use a more efective weapon ...

i can see how the war could have been ...

Gen Isenhower.."MR hittler..we are ruining this war by blowing eatchother up ..lets not use rockets.."

Hittler ..."..(puling out pansershreck) ..BOOM..."

just suck it up ..the shotgun is a great weapon up close..but it blows at aney range ...so wile im trying to get close enugh to make my shotie efective..you have emptyed a clip into me ..

every weapon has its place...im not gona drag a shotgun through berlin ..and dont cry when your eat buckshot on V2..

Ron · 11-10-2003, 06:23 PM

damn calm down calmdown: I'm no one's bitch lol

granted a shotgun is good for V2 map but on some servers the shotgun has an imbalance of power so that people can simply charge guys whith rifles, mg's, and smg's and just level them. It takes away from the game and some people rely on them too much. My main point...
THEIR POWER IS IMBALANCED AND PEOPLE ABUSE THEM. but not all people.

Also when their power is too imbalanced everyone ends up using them and before you know it all you have is a prey and spray charge fest.

If you want to get realistic how real is it to have people running down halls so as to get as close as possible...in real life poeple would crawl and sneak their way around corners...like you would have to in real life, and that is what usually happens when shotguns don't hijack the map.
Also along the lines of realism...shotguns were not a common weapon at all among slodiers in the war...and they were especially more uncommon among axis forces...and as another said...i KNOW the germans didn't have winchester shotguns LOL rolleyes:

YourFragged · 11-10-2003, 07:21 PM

STFU ALREADY

my god. i fucken HATE people like you. seriously, go cry me a river. this game was NOT meant to be realistic. if you want realism, go play CoD. now that is realistic. if you cannot kill a shotgun from long distance or heck even from close range, you are obviously not that good.. shotgunning, like every weapon, has its advantage and disadvantage..

my advice to you is to quit bitching about a weapon and start practicing. sounds like you could use the work.

told yah to loick it. just made me go all out

Merlin122 · 11-10-2003, 07:21 PM

well. Hitler felt the same way about shotguns as most of u guys do. Back in WW2 the usual combat engineer was handed a shotgun to use in the field. now this weapon was so devastating at close range it seemed almost unfair on the battlefield. Now Hitler's engineers were usually equipped with the Mauser. And after looking at this many casualties in the field he decided that this was against the gentlemenly rules of war. So he tried getting it banned at the genuva convention. Fortunately it was never banned and the combat engineers fought on with this powerful weapon.

11-10-2003, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin122

well. Hitler felt the same way about shotguns as most of u guys do. Back in WW2 the usual combat engineer was handed a shotgun to use in the field. now this weapon was so devastating at close range it seemed almost unfair on the battlefield. Now Hitler's engineers were usually equipped with the Mauser. And after looking at this many casualties in the field he decided that this was against the gentlemenly rules of war. So he tried getting it banned at the genuva convention. Fortunately it was never banned and the combat engineers fought on with this powerful weapon.

but could the engineer take 5 BAR shots in the chest and still dance the jig?

shotguns are overpowered because other weapons are pussified compared to real life. Fortunately most shotgun users are uber n00bs and can be out dogfought (use of higher altitude is advisable)

Ron · 11-10-2003, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by YourFragged

STFU ALREADY

my god. i fucken HATE people like you. seriously, go cry me a river. this game was NOT meant to be realistic. if you want realism, go play CoD. now that is realistic. if you cannot kill a shotgun from long distance or heck even from close range, you are obviously not that good.. shotgunning, like every weapon, has its advantage and disadvantage..

my advice to you is to quit bitching about a weapon and start practicing. sounds like you could use the work.

told yah to loick it. just made me go all out

Um dude calm the hell down. eek:
I think i made my points clear. I think most people would agree that shotguns are too powerful and that it is a pain in the ass when newbies abuse them to kill veteran players not using them. I find it annoying when because of the power of them whole servers become a pray and spray fest. I have been playing for over a year and although i can't prove it obviosly i believe i am pretty good or at least better than average.

The intensity to which you reacted to my comments show me that obviosly you have nothing better to do in your life at the moment than play MOH. Relax man. annoy:

Oh and in regards to the shotguns being banned it was actually a Peace conference in the hague. The problem was the ammo not the guns. Expanding and soft ammo was outlawned. Since buckshot is soft and thus expanded when it hit flesh it could be argued that shotguns were thus an illegal weapon. However they are still utilized in militaries all over.

YourFragged · 11-10-2003, 09:55 PM

no ron, you are quite quite wrong. just seeing people like you post this over and over and over and over again kinda gets on my nerves. bitch about something else for cying out loud

Ron · 11-10-2003, 09:58 PM

Forums are made for bitching, argueing and talking...i see nothing that says...no bitching about shotguns.
I am just discussing an aspect of the game that i dislike. I dson't think that is a crime. Of course i keep replying because i have to defend myself from your offending comments.