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01-30-2004, 12:25 AM
It's interesting proposal to remove race as criteria for applying for college, but this is one less piece of information the government and schools are without for statistics...because that's all you are, a statstic, right?
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01-30-2004, 01:04 AM
[quote="Old Reliable":10b5d]What Is Affirmative Action?
Born of the civil rights movement three decades ago, affirmative action calls for minorities and women to be given special consideration in employment, education and contracting decisions.
Institutions with affirmative action policies generally set goals and timetables for increased diversity – and use recruitment, set-asides and preference as ways of achieving those goals.
In its modern form, affirmative action can call for an admissions officer faced with two similarly qualified applicants to choose the minority over the white, or for a manager to recruit and hire a qualified woman for a job instead of a man. Affirmative action decisions are generally not supposed to be based on quotas, nor are they supposed to give any preference to unqualified candidates. And they are not supposed to harm anyone through "reverse discrimination."[/quote:10b5d]
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01-30-2004, 05:56 PM
Against.
Affirmative Action is a bunch of bullshit.
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01-30-2004, 05:58 PM
i wish that affirmative action never existed, the whole ideal never existed. its all bullshit from either side. no one needs help. ppl who cant get a job just cant get a job. its all a real touchy subject....
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01-30-2004, 06:01 PM
The past shouldn't matter. My Parents, ancestors ALL the way back didn';t do anything to blacks or other minorities.
What, should I ask Germany for reperations for taking us over during WWII?
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01-30-2004, 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyro
The past shouldn't matter. My Parents, ancestors ALL the way back didn';t do anything to blacks or other minorities.
What, should I ask Germany for reperations for taking us over during WWII?
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true. my ancestors came from ireland a hundred years back. we had nothing to do with slavery. if anyone should be paying reparations for slavery, it should be the dutch. the usa got all there slaves from dutch slavetraders, they were the ones who captured them and sold them to america.
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01-30-2004, 06:04 PM
[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":a2a7c]Against.
Affirmative Action is a bunch of bullshit.[/quote:a2a7c]
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01-30-2004, 06:36 PM
Well, I for one believe in it. If you don't like it, try and beat out your opponent, and if you don't get in because of your race.... sue biggrin:
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01-30-2004, 07:34 PM
lol fuck you old reliable. biggrin:
I've seen a person not of color who had the HIGHEST honors and then some scumbag "colored" with nothing to offer get hired because he was a minority. THAT'S bullshit, you should get hired on what you have to offer, not because you are colored.
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01-30-2004, 07:48 PM
I'm personally against it due to the fact that my freind who got Valedictorian for our class couldn't get a scholarship to UCLA because of it.
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01-30-2004, 08:04 PM
against they should be hired due to skill not race
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01-30-2004, 09:10 PM
Afirmitive action is a load of garbage. How can people support, like blacks for example. They complain about whites treating them unfair, now they want to be treated better. I know most blacks are not like this, but the ones with the biggest voices are.
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02-01-2004, 11:36 PM
[quote="Old Reliable":0a768]It's interesting proposal to remove race as criteria for applying for college, but this is one less piece of information the government and schools are without for statistics...because that's all you are, a statstic, right?[/quote:0a768]
it isn't a requirement now... it's an optional field which hurts you to not fill in and helps you if you're a minority and fill it in. am i only a statistic? i suppose the president of the university should keep track of all 26000 students. My advisor and professors know me by name (for the most part). So what, are you against using computers and organised systems to keep track of people? You make outragious statements oldie.... you must be going senial. biggrin:
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02-02-2004, 01:38 AM
I like the way people blame affirmative action when they get rejected for a job or a scholarship when they probably have no evidence that says thats the reason. rolleyes:
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02-02-2004, 01:39 AM
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I like the way people blame affirmative action when they get rejected for a job or a scholarship when they probably have no evidence that says thats the reason. rolleyes:
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I agree there. But there is also people who have better SAT scores, and a better GPA throughout highschool, getting turned down.
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