Question about communism... - Page 2

Eames · 03-03-2004, 09:57 PM

[quote="Sgt Stryker":353fe]I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.[/quote:353fe]

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.

Pyro · 03-03-2004, 09:59 PM

[quote="Cpl. Eames":4aaa1][quote="Sgt Stryker":4aaa1]I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.[/quote:4aaa1]

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.[/quote:4aaa1]

religion is the real root of all evil.

Azazel. · 03-03-2004, 10:02 PM

In my opinion , it's about Freedom.

A communist government does not allow for indivuism and basic freedom.

As a supporter of freedom , I understand why people would " Hate " communism.

SoLiDUS · 03-04-2004, 04:43 AM

“FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY, TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED.”

Close enough... let's re-arrange it a bit:

“FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY, TO EACH REGARDLESS OF HIS NEED."

The productivity falls on the same few's shoulders and they have to give
away the fruits of their labor ? No.

mwah:

Sgt>Stackem · 03-04-2004, 08:09 AM

perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work

Zoner · 03-04-2004, 08:12 AM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":57b6d]perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work[/quote:57b6d]

Exactly. On paper, it's great. In practice, it licks ass.

pest · 03-04-2004, 08:47 AM

True communism has never been implemented on a national scale.

Every attemp has degraded into a socialist dictatorship at best.

Plato's Republic had it best, IMO. The leaders have no possessions. They live communally and their needs (and little more) are provided by the state. Their only luxury is the ability to rule. Remove the ability to gain financially from the rulers and their decisions are less clouded.

Tystnad · 03-04-2004, 08:49 AM

[quote=Eames]

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Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":c1df3

I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.[/quote:c1df3]

Did you ever pay any attention at all in school?
If you did, you wouldve known the cornerstones of communsim by now.
The revolution is just one form that the communism might take to reach it goals. Notice that 'one way'? eek:

Colonel · 03-04-2004, 10:27 AM

[quote=Zoner]

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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":3dcee

perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work

Exactly. On paper, it's great. In practice, it licks ass.[/quote:3dcee]

I disagree. It licks ass on paper, in practice, and as an idea.

Duke_of_Ray · 03-04-2004, 10:29 AM

When you do not have freedom, it will not work.

bukdez · 03-04-2004, 10:40 AM

[quote=Pyro][quote="Cpl. Eames":f220b]

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Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":f220b

I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.[/quote:f220b]

religion is the real root of all evil.[/quote:f220b]

amen...

Zoner · 03-04-2004, 10:49 AM

[quote=Colonel]

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Originally Posted by Zoner

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Originally Posted by "Sgt>Stackem":782de

perfect communism is a great idea but the one thing to get in its way is greed, so it would never work

Exactly. On paper, it's great. In practice, it licks ass.

I disagree. It licks ass on paper, in practice, and as an idea.[/quote:782de]

Point taken. biggrin:

Drew · 03-04-2004, 11:14 AM

[quote=Tystnad]

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Originally Posted by Eames

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":f8171

I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.

Did you ever pay any attention at all in school?
If you did, you wouldve known the cornerstones of communsim by now.
The revolution is just one form that the communism might take to reach it goals. Notice that 'one way'? eek:[/quote:f8171]

God knows that I don't want to defend Eames, but I just have to correct this statement.

According to Marx, the only way to achieve "true" communism is through revolution of the lower classes.

Tystnad · 03-04-2004, 11:24 AM

[quote=Noctis]

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Originally Posted by Tystnad

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eames

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Originally Posted by "Sgt Stryker":87d3a

I think the US does not so much hate communism as the fact that we feared a communist expansion throughout the world.
While on paper communism sounds tempting, it does not work and has led to dictatorships forming in comunist countries. Also communism would ruin the existing economy in the US.

Also, Stalin waas a pretty scary chap, he raised hell with the USSR's own people, so naturally the US was a little scared, we helped put on tyrannical nutcase out of business, having another would be bad.

What do you mean the us doesnt hate communist? The corner stone of filthy bolshevism is world revolution, we hate communism because it goes against the economic foundations of the west, is anti religon, and preaches world revolution. Filthy communist.

Did you ever pay any attention at all in school?
If you did, you wouldve known the cornerstones of communsim by now.
The revolution is just one form that the communism might take to reach it goals. Notice that 'one way'? eek:

God knows that I don't want to defend Eames, but I just have to correct this statement.

According to Marx, the only way to achieve "true" communism is through revolution of the lower classes.[/quote:87d3a]

Which is not to be taken litterarly. What he is saying is that the lower classes should not longer be lower classes, but the walls between the classes shall be removed, and a society of equality will form in time..

Pyro · 03-04-2004, 11:26 AM

fuck america got demorcracy through revolution...everything needs a fucking revolution.