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02-14-2005, 07:54 AM
Israel shouldn't be allowed to have the army they have imo. If we can say shit about Iraqs power and so on...why should Israel? I guess they like fighting wars as much as their favourite country USA.
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02-14-2005, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Israel shouldn't be allowed to have the army they have imo. If we can say shit about Iraqs power and so on...why should Israel? I guess they like fighting wars as much as their favourite country USA.
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What is your beef with Israel? Just curious.
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02-14-2005, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by tomxtr
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Israel shouldn't be allowed to have the army they have imo. If we can say shit about Iraqs power and so on...why should Israel? I guess they like fighting wars as much as their favourite country USA.
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What is your beef with Israel? Just curious.
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I just think we praise them here too much, when they were at fault for the palestine-israeli wars as well.
Israel-Palenstine Wars reminds me of this years NHL Lockout.
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02-14-2005, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyro
I just think we praise them here too much, when they were at fault for the palestine-israeli wars as well.
Israel-Palenstine Wars reminds me of this years NHL Lockout.
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They buy stuff from us, and they are mostly Jewish. America = rich, Jews = rich, what a solid, concrete alliance.
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Captain
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02-14-2005, 01:28 PM
not to mention their airforce can spank most otehr countries 10 times as large as israel. I have no clue what the top 10 militaries are, But Ill bet most of them are in the news right now for being in continued fighting. and then of course a couple more being all quiet and waiting for the right moment( me looks to the north) the_finger:
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02-14-2005, 02:14 PM
there is really no right momment for war.
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02-14-2005, 03:05 PM
[quote="Unknown_Sniper":915a5]not to mention their airforce can spank most otehr countries 10 times as large as israel.[/quote:915a5]
Yes, top airforcesesses:
1. US
2. Israel
3. Russia
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02-14-2005, 03:12 PM
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02-14-2005, 03:14 PM
bomb me
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02-14-2005, 03:16 PM
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bomb me
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Happy Valentinos day maple. beer:
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02-14-2005, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by tomxtr
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Originally Posted by Pyro
Israel shouldn't be allowed to have the army they have imo. If we can say shit about Iraqs power and so on...why should Israel? I guess they like fighting wars as much as their favourite country USA.
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What is your beef with Israel? Just curious.
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I just think we praise them here too much, when they were at fault for the palestine-israeli wars as well.
Israel-Palenstine Wars reminds me of this years NHL Lockout.
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Pyro, I dont know what sh-t youve been hearing but let me clear things up for you.
1) We arent affraid of powerful/large militaries, we are afraid of WMD's.
2) Israel is our only ally in the middle east so it would do us some good if it were a force to be rackoned with.
3) They werent at fault for any wars. In all the wars faught against Israel, including the conflict with paestinians, (whom I might add blow up themselves, run away, andd use women and children as human shields), Israel was always the one defending, and therefore it has never been the agressor.
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02-14-2005, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Trunks
Pyro, I dont know what sh-t youve been hearing but let me clear things up for you.
1) We arent affraid of powerful/large militaries, we are afraid of WMD's.
2) Israel is our only ally in the middle east so it would do us some good if it were a force to be rackoned with.
3) They werent at fault for any wars. In all the wars faught against Israel, including the conflict with paestinians, (whom I might add blow up themselves, run away, andd use women and children as human shields), Israel was always the one defending, and therefore it has never been the agressor.
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Feel free to make this into a new thread. Lets have an argument/debate about Israel-Palestine. If you don't, then I will.
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02-14-2005, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Trunks
Israel was always the one defending, and therefore it has never been the agressor.
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Are you sure about this?
Israel only appears to be the defender, because instead of traditional means of war, they sponsor terrorist programs and mass murder within other countries, with their own political interests in mind. Its and easy stunt to pull off when you have the most influental world power backing you up. Who, coincedentally, have committed similar atrocitys in the past, all swept under the rug.
Its obviously an effective tactic, they seem to have you convinced.
Theres more information on this here:
http://www.groundforce1.com/forums/view ... ?t=1005938
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02-14-2005, 08:24 PM
israel has not always been the defending country. BAck in the day ther ewas a thing called I believe the 7 days war. In this war israel carried out extremely accurate, and devestating attaacks on certain locations throughout hte middle east. Their airforce is to date the only known military power to have ever directly attacked and damged a nuclrear power plant(In egypt) and then taken out all of the sorrounding countries major military strengths. And they even destroyed one US spy ship in the mediteranian becuase they thought it was an attack ship. Why did Israel do this? because Jordan, egypt, and a bunch of the otehr major powers in the 70's were planning and in the pre war stages of a full scale invasion of israel. last I check Israel was still there. that says something about them.
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02-14-2005, 09:30 PM
[quote="Unknown_Sniper":8beb5]israel has not always been the defending country. BAck in the day ther ewas a thing called I believe the 7 days war. In this war israel carried out extremely accurate, and devestating attaacks on certain locations throughout hte middle east. Their airforce is to date the only known military power to have ever directly attacked and damged a nuclrear power plant(In egypt) and then taken out all of the sorrounding countries major military strengths. And they even destroyed one US spy ship in the mediteranian becuase they thought it was an attack ship. Why did Israel do this? because Jordan, egypt, and a bunch of the otehr major powers in the 70's were planning and in the pre war stages of a full scale invasion of israel. last I check Israel was still there. that says something about them.[/quote:8beb5]
Who cares... Israel is leet at fighting.
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