The US draft - Page 2

elstatec · 03-13-2005, 10:40 AM

hake:

AH WELL.

Drew · 03-13-2005, 12:07 PM

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As of December 2004, there were 1,411,287 officers and enlisted personnel in the United States military branches.

As of January 2005, there were approximately 150,000 officers and enlisted personnel deployed in Iraq. This is about 10% of the United States military capacity.

Pre-requesite for this topic? Know what you're talking about.

Ok I didn't know that, thank you for enlightening me... If that it true than maybe there isn't a need for a draft, at least not immediately. But why hasn't Bush send more troops in when the current ones are struggling?

You just made me feel bad for being an ass wallbash:

Anyway, I get a bit heated about this kind of issue because so many people - especially US citizens - have no clue whatsoever when it comes to issues like this.

HaVoc · 03-13-2005, 12:21 PM

lol

There is no need to apologize for that. You should see some of the shit I walk through in political threads.

Ferich · 03-13-2005, 01:22 PM

I don't know what you mean by struggling. It doesn't matter how many military personnel are in an area when you're getting weekly potshots or civilians are being attacked randomly. There's definately enough personnel that would be needed for an offensive in Iraq, but there's nothing to take offensive action against for now. And when that fighting is needed it's done, the beginning parts of the war for example. Fallujah also showed there were enough personnel for an offensive during the "peacekeeping."

Until this North Korea, Iraq, Syria, etc situation actually escalates more than just "SECRET FBI FILES THAT SAY BUSH SUCKED OFF SYRIANS FOR OIL" ...if you know what I mean - I wouldn't worry about them, well moreso let the people that it's their jobs to worry about it.

I find people in general are believing the negative conspiracy theories just because they're negative or "spicy". Somewhat puts a damper on what the people go through over there and some things they might've done right.

Unknown_Sniper · 03-13-2005, 05:44 PM

You also have to take into account not only our armys weakness but the iraqi's themselves. During the recent Iraqi elections the candidate that the United States was hoping would win was in fact not elected by the people. They chose in stead another man. They then told the US troops we dont need you anymore please leave. Now if bush starts throwing more troops over there then they will flip out and think that he is infact trying to gain power over there.
I very much doubt that there will be a draft in Iraq. If another conflict flares up within the next ten years however. I would not at all be surprised to see a draft of some sorts happen.

negative · 03-13-2005, 08:07 PM

we arent stuggling, your just used to the loeft wing media. We have fought the most succesfult War in military history (based on our goals)

ninty · 03-13-2005, 08:25 PM

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We have fought the most succesfult War in military history (based on our goals)

oOo: X infinity

Wasn't the original goal to get rid of WMD?

Stammer · 03-13-2005, 08:45 PM

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We have fought the most succesfult War in military history (based on our goals)

oOo: X infinity

Wasn't the original goal to get rid of WMD?

No, thats what the liberals want you to think.

wallbash:

HaVoc · 03-13-2005, 09:45 PM

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we arent stuggling, your just used to the loeft wing media. We have fought the most succesfult War in military history (based on our goals)

Are you related to a wet sock with a hole in the big toe which is wrapped around a half eaten cheese sandwich which has been stomped on several hundred times because it was dropped in the middle of a sidewalk in New York City? The only reason I have such an inquiry is because you seem to have an intelligence level reminiscent of such an obscure item. The most successful war in history you say? You have either terribly mixed up the definition of “success” and “failure” or you happen to be the type of person who enjoys watching NASCAR, drinking abnormally extensive amounts of Budweiser and protecting your family from robbers, terrorists and liberal pussies with an array of high powered assault rifles; because only a person who meets that criteria would be able to be so blissfully ignorant. You didn’t find any WMD, the majority of the country doesn’t have basic utilities, there are constant attacks on the US despite the fact that Bush declared the end of the war nearly two years ago and the entire would thinks Americans are lairs, criminals, imperialists and even terrorists – success you say?

Sgt>Stackem · 03-14-2005, 07:28 AM

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The most successful war in history you say? You have either terribly mixed up the definition of “success”

WRONG

You didn’t find any WMD,

They moved them

the majority of the country doesn’t have basic utilities,

They have more then when we started

there are constant attacks on the US despite the fact that Bush declared the end of the war nearly two years ago and the entire would thinks Americans are lairs, criminals, imperialists and even terrorists – success you say?

so far so good, if you compare it to other wars the death toll is much lower

Pyro · 03-14-2005, 07:56 AM

I love the idea of being forced to go to war in a free country...where the war they're fighting isn't even about protecting America.

negative · 03-14-2005, 08:44 AM

Havoc--I guarentee you that I know more about military history than you ever will. First, name one war that armies did not occupy after it was over. Secondly, everyone will always hate America -just as they did the Brittish. My favorite example is how the tsunami people, and other countries, complained about America not contributin enough money. Then, when we send our red cross, more money, and blahblahblah over there they tell us they dont need our help-and the world thinks we have overstepped our boundaries. I grew up in an area where you support your government-as I enjoy the best education (for free), best opportunities, and freedom to do whatever I want-but it seems that people have lost that thought (except for britain). Personally, I dont care what the world thinks because we could beat them in a war.
We did not find any WMD, so maybe we were wrong about that-but who cares. The dominos are falling in the middle east, and anyone who cant see that is blind. Since we didnt find WMD, we must now concentrate on destroying the enemy. And we have done that.

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." - General Tommy Franks

Mr.Buttocks · 03-14-2005, 10:03 AM

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"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." - General Tommy Franks

Better to date a "pussy" than someone who drops bombs on/shoots innocent men, women and children.

Innoxx · 03-14-2005, 10:10 AM

Yeah, what's with all this macho "my political spectrum's dick is bigger than yours" bullshit?

I am so close to making this thread disappear. If you guys are gonna bitch at eachother, at least try to be a little bit more constructive and try to look credible.

Sgt>Stackem · 03-14-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by negative

"When you men get home and face an anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy." - General Tommy Franks

Better to date a "pussy" than someone who drops bombs on/shoots innocent men, women and children.[/quote:98d02]

where do you get your info? I havent heard about mass bombing, of cluster bombings like WWII. Now in WWII there aere alot of innocents killed. The bombings have been very persise in this war. The people living in Iraq have bombed more innocents than we ever have