The Pope's death...or no death or whatever - Page 2

Alex D · 04-01-2005, 04:43 PM

[quote="Mr.Buttocks":6a69b]Coming soon: The Black Pope!!![/quote:6a69b]
Ironically, you may be right. Quoted from [url=http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10118256:6a69b]here[/url:6a69b]:

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Top 5 contenders diverse group

Dionigi Tettamanzi, 71, Italy - the Archbishop of Milan, is the frontrunner. Tettamanzi is a pastor and an intellectual and as someone close to John Paul II, insiders say he he represents continuity, but with new ideas. Tettamanzi can count on the support of Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re, who heads the bishops' congregation, and Camillo Ruini, head of the Italian Church. He's also close to Opus Dei, the ultraconservative Catholic group.

[url=http://images.google.ca/images?q=Francis%20Arinze%20&num=100&hl=en&lr=&new window=1&c2coff=1&safe=off&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2003-48,GGLD:en&sa=N&tab=wi:6a69b]Francis Arinze 73, Nigeria[/url:6a69b] - Archbishop Emeritus of Onitsha, Nigeria, pro-president of the secretariat for Non-Christians. In 2002, after serving as the head of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, he was named the head of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of Sacraments. Arinze is a conservative who takes a hardline position on abortion and contraception and denounces homosexuality.

Christoph Schonborn, 60, Austria - Archbishop of Vienna. Schonborn is titled aristocracy related to every European royal family. Also a brilliant theologian with sensitivity to the Christian East, orthodoxy and Eastern bloc Catholics. But his relatively young age and that he comes from the German camp could work against him.

Angelo Scola, 64, Italy - the Patriarch of Venice. A scholar and a moderate, Scola is likely to have the backing of Opus Dei.

Severino Poletto, 72, Italy - the Archbishop of Turin. Poletto was named Bishop of Asti last year. His prospects derive from his spiritual and pastoral qualities and his links to Vatican secretary of state, Angelo Sodano
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So the next one can be indeed black. Way to go with St-Malachias' prophecies. oOo:

Coleman · 04-01-2005, 04:47 PM

damn Italy.

I wonder why their selection would be someone that is so old (70's) and can die next year. John Paul II has been around for a while which gave pretty good stability and consistency.

Alex D · 04-01-2005, 07:22 PM

Interesting article [url=http://slate.msn.com/id/2089815/fr/ifr/nav/ais/:cd6c4]here[/url:cd6c4]:
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So, who will the next pope be—a black, a Hispanic, an American, or a Jew?

No, it's not a joke. All four are real possibilities.
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If they select somebody that is less than 65, then he'll stick around long. If he's older than 70, he won't. Complex matter it is oOo:

Akuma · 04-01-2005, 07:24 PM

Jew for pope

Stammer · 04-01-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Akuma

Jew for pope

WidowMaker555 · 04-01-2005, 07:51 PM

the pope is gonna "Die" but really he will be hiding in los angeles with 2pac and elvis

Jin-Roh · 04-02-2005, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WidowMaker555

the pope is gonna "Die" but really he will be hiding in los angeles with 2pac and elvis

Who is 2pac? oOo:

CoMaToSe · 04-02-2005, 04:53 AM

imwithstupid:

The pope's passing is very sad, but we need not lose sight of the real issue here. Catholics have a habit of deifying most of their figures. They refer to the pope as the "holy father". Now, unless my protestant upbringings have been misaken, the hoky father is God. There is one God, and one Savior. Treating the pontiff like a devine source is a mockery of God. He is not devine, but he is possessed of the most devine power a mortal man can have: the power to spread God's word and love. Stop thinking he's a hokly individual deigned by God or whatever, that's very medievel thinking. The Catholic church needs to learn to live in it's own time.

Tripper · 04-02-2005, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMaToSe

imwithstupid:

The pope's passing is very sad, but we need not lose sight of the real issue here. Catholics have a habit of deifying most of their figures. They refer to the pope as the "holy father". Now, unless my protestant upbringings have been misaken, the hoky father is God. There is one God, and one Savior. Treating the pontiff like a devine source is a mockery of God. He is not devine, but he is possessed of the most devine power a mortal man can have: the power to spread God's word and love. Stop thinking he's a hokly individual deigned by God or whatever, that's very medievel thinking. The Catholic church needs to learn to live in it's own time.

who told you to post at these forums? I want to sacrifice their soul to satans soldiers of glory

Maplegyver · 04-02-2005, 09:17 AM

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bukdez · 04-02-2005, 12:23 PM

pope = sleeping:...

Alex D · 04-02-2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMaToSe

imwithstupid:

The pope's passing is very sad, but we need not lose sight of the real issue here. Catholics have a habit of deifying most of their figures. They refer to the pope as the "holy father". Now, unless my protestant upbringings have been misaken, the hoky father is God. There is one God, and one Savior. Treating the pontiff like a devine source is a mockery of God. He is not devine, but he is possessed of the most devine power a mortal man can have: the power to spread God's word and love. Stop thinking he's a hokly individual deigned by God or whatever, that's very medievel thinking. The Catholic church needs to learn to live in it's own time.

I believe the term "holy father" is not really mean to be taken literally. It is "holy" because of the position investment as God's top wordkeeper, but it is not an automatic step to saint-ness - that's clear. And "father" is because of the position of priest, as every priest is being called "Father". Indeed the Church needs to keep moving forward, but without loosing the trail.

It's sad but I only want him to stop suffering and to embrace his next journey. He had already done many crucial things in his long papacy. I wonder who's going to succeed him.