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01-25-2006, 12:40 PM
I think that adoption is better than abortion, but thats MY opinion. I think the mother should have her choice.
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01-25-2006, 12:49 PM
I myself am pro choice and I believe people should have the choice to deside if they want to keep the soon to be child.
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01-25-2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by c312
does the fetus count as her body too?
pyro, you think abortion is better than adoption?!?
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Not on a whole...but to me...Id wouldn't like to know someone lives in the World that comes from my genes and I know nothing about them...and can't even see them grow up without at least one of thier original parents.
I want to make sure any kid I have...Is mine...and mine alone (unless my babys momma wants to be involved too)
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So you would kill a fetus even though there are thousands of couples that are unable to have a child because you couldn't handle it? This is a baby that you don't want in the first place, so you would rather kill potential life than give the joy of a child to someone else, someone who cannot physically create that joy themselves?
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01-25-2006, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by c312
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by c312
does the fetus count as her body too?
pyro, you think abortion is better than adoption?!?
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Not on a whole...but to me...Id wouldn't like to know someone lives in the World that comes from my genes and I know nothing about them...and can't even see them grow up without at least one of thier original parents.
I want to make sure any kid I have...Is mine...and mine alone (unless my babys momma wants to be involved too)
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So you would kill a fetus even though there are thousands of couples that are unable to have a child because you couldn't handle it? This is a baby that you don't want in the first place, so you would rather kill potential life than give the joy of a child to someone else, someone who cannot physically create that joy themselves?
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Yes. Other people are not the concern here. They have options, they can adopt. Why should a woman take another couples situation into consideration when making her own life-altering decision? a couple who cannot have their own baby can adopt from the thousands of available babies.
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01-25-2006, 02:17 PM
Babies are not as abundant as you think.
And what I said is in the case that Pyro suggests, where he mentioned no objection to the actual carrying and birth of a baby, but only to having a kid you don't know in the world. That seems ridiculous to me that you would care that much a baby that you thought about not allowing to live.
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01-25-2006, 02:55 PM
if RvW was repealed there would be so many kids in shelters it would be insane. There are not enough people out there to adopt them. Thats the one and only question I have for pro-lifers, where do you put the kids? dont say "adopt them" that wont fly. Not enough out there to adopt so many children
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01-25-2006, 02:56 PM
If it weren't for the mother the fetus wouldn't exists period, so yes it is part of her body.
And fuck other people, like Mad said they can adopt or find someone who is willing to be a surrogate mother.
Also Coleman, you're against abortion but Pro-War and Pro-Death penalty? Were are your morals then? Why weren't you protesting the invasion of Bosnia and Iraq?
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01-25-2006, 03:20 PM
gg stammer cool:
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01-25-2006, 03:31 PM
Lots of issues here...
1. Abortion - My view? Well I really don't have a view as I have never gotten into that situation yet (knock on wood).
2. Guns - 2nd amendment right.
3. War in Iraq - why? Sadaam wasn't a threat to us.
4. War in Afghanistan - Good strategy, train the locals to fight the taliban.
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01-25-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Stammer
Also Coleman, you're against abortion but Pro-War and Pro-Death penalty? Were are your morals then? Why weren't you protesting the invasion of Bosnia and Iraq?
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there is a difference in intentionally killing a soon to be life and killing someone who killed other people.
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01-25-2006, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by c312
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by c312
does the fetus count as her body too?
pyro, you think abortion is better than adoption?!?
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Not on a whole...but to me...Id wouldn't like to know someone lives in the World that comes from my genes and I know nothing about them...and can't even see them grow up without at least one of thier original parents.
I want to make sure any kid I have...Is mine...and mine alone (unless my babys momma wants to be involved too)
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So you would kill a fetus even though there are thousands of couples that are unable to have a child because you couldn't handle it? This is a baby that you don't want in the first place, so you would rather kill potential life than give the joy of a child to someone else, someone who cannot physically create that joy themselves?
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That's Gods plan...why should I help out when this God is nice enough to fuck over certain people.
God doens't want it...so why give them a Kid. I have to live with ashtma, glasses, braces(at one point) and also have to be shorter than my younger brother.
Some people get fucking benefits in life...and some people don't...I get my shit end...they get their shit end...thats that.
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01-25-2006, 04:15 PM
I thought this thread was about which WW2-movie/miniseries medic was better...Doc Roe from BoB or Wade from SPR...lol...
Pro-Choice Fo Life.
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01-25-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripper
Pro-Choice Fo Life.
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lol that sounds funny
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Chief of Staff General
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01-25-2006, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripper
I thought this thread was about which WW2-movie/miniseries medic was better...Doc Roe from BoB or Wade from SPR...lol...
Pro-Choice Fo Life.
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well...it's one the most known about legal case sin 20th century america...alsong with the forgot the name vs the board of education in kansas about teaching evolution in shcool.
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Command Sergeant Major
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01-25-2006, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pyro
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Originally Posted by Tripper
I thought this thread was about which WW2-movie/miniseries medic was better...Doc Roe from BoB or Wade from SPR...lol...
Pro-Choice Fo Life.
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well...it's one the most known about legal case sin 20th century america...alsong with the forgot the name vs the board of education in kansas about teaching evolution in shcool.
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Brown. heh, how appropriate.
And pyro, I have no clue what point you were trying to make in your previous post.
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