[Eight Ace]

Originally Posted by ninty

I'm not an expert and i'm not ignoring information. I don't claim to know everything about everything, nor do I claim to know exactly what happened during any of these events. The main purpose of posting this topic was to show that most people wrongly believe certain organizations carried out these attacks when the governments have said otherwise. Whether or not i believe so and so carried them out doesn't really matter at this point. Were all pretty much set in our ways here, so i'm not going to change anyones mind.

Who told you 99% of people assumed al qaeda were directly involved?
....aren't you always saying they are an American invention anyway?

If this one guy went to Pakistan and attended fundamentalist institutions then it is likely
to be the group laskar e toiba as the article suggests, just as if he went to indonesia
he would be linking up with jamai islamia, or abu sayyef in the phillipines etc.

They are all islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups, that probably agree 100% with al qaeda,
or even just the idea of al qaeda....so do you really think it's a big deal to say "ooh look,
al qeada isn't really involved"...as if that is the key fact, or could even be proved,
or bring back the victims...or somehow mean George Bush was the bomber.

[ninty]

rolleyes:

I didn't say 99%.

I think it is safe to assume, as I said, that most people thought al qaeda were responsible since that has been the story in the media for 2 years.

Remember all the stuff about al quaeda bombing the madrid station to get their forces out of iraq?

and your right, I don't believe that al qaeda exists as they are protrayed. If there is indeed an al qaeda, I would be willing to bet they are a controlled asset of the CIA and MI6. However, since the propaganda machine just rolls this stuff out, i'm also willing to bet that the majority of people believe that al qaeda does indeed exist.

The reason it is a big deal is because the british and american government will try to connect al qaeda to as many wrong doings as possible in order to justify their current foreign policy.

Al qaeda is the boogeyman. All the government has to do is utter those words and people will run crying to the government to save them.

[Eight Ace]

"Al Qaeda, 3/11 and 7/7

Turns out they were involved in neither like 99% of people believe."

rolleyes:

[Eight Ace]

double post, but..erm...so there!

[ninty]

my mistake. however, the point still stands. are you trying to argue that most people do not believe al qaeda carried out the attacks?

[Eight Ace]

are you trying to argue that because you think al qaeda = CIA, then all the terrorist
groups thoughout the world and their activities and influences are imaginary?

[ninty]

I'm not trying to argue that AQ=CIA. That's just what I see being most probable. I'm saying that media and the government manipulate information to suit their needs. In this case al qaeda was blamed for two attacks. As a result this would create the largest outcry from the populations

[Eight Ace]

you're wrong, to come out and blame muslims believing in fundamentalist islam would create the largest outcry from the populations.

[ninty]

ok

[Pyro]

lol...it can never be fault of them...it always has to be someone else.

Why would USA not be seen as perfect as they are obvioslly perfect...same with Britain.

Everybody is evil...we were born this way.

[KTOG]

HITLAAR WASNT GERMAN!