[Blitz-krieg]

o hehe, then u shoudl have alot of experience and give us some tips on how to get girls like how we act and stuff liek that

[Rev Aristotle Jones]

Originally Posted by Totenkopf

I must disagree to an extent. I believe that a fear of consequences holds most back from killing. Why have I not killed anyone? Because, I don't want to become Bubba's b!tch in a state pen. If there were no law against it, then we would have some big time issues as a society. On the other hand, there are few consequences to cheating, you will not go to jail, you will not be fined (well, unless a divorce ensues ed: ) etc. However, if you told me that I would go to jail for ten years if I cheated on my wife or gf, then there is no doubt in my mind that I would think twice about it. I would not think twice about it because I am breaking some virtue of mine.

Now I don't disagree that there are some out there who can refrain from doing it. But they are few and far between. What worries me is that you would never cheat on your mate, due to your beliefs on the wrongdoing of cheating, but you would kill me for a twinky......nice virtue system. biggrin:

My whole post is that we are conditioned against doing "animalistic" things because there are consequences - morally and criminally.

[intrestedviewer]

dogs cheat on their bitches. But remember, only to procreate.

[Totenkopf]

[quote="Rev Aristotle Jones":04b5a]

Originally Posted by Totenkopf

I must disagree to an extent. I believe that a fear of consequences holds most back from killing. Why have I not killed anyone? Because, I don't want to become Bubba's b!tch in a state pen. If there were no law against it, then we would have some big time issues as a society. On the other hand, there are few consequences to cheating, you will not go to jail, you will not be fined (well, unless a divorce ensues ed: ) etc. However, if you told me that I would go to jail for ten years if I cheated on my wife or gf, then there is no doubt in my mind that I would think twice about it. I would not think twice about it because I am breaking some virtue of mine.

Now I don't disagree that there are some out there who can refrain from doing it. But they are few and far between. What worries me is that you would never cheat on your mate, due to your beliefs on the wrongdoing of cheating, but you would kill me for a twinky......nice virtue system. biggrin:

My whole post is that we are conditioned against doing "animalistic" things because there are consequences - morally and criminally.[/quote:04b5a]

Fair enough, but let me ask you this. Why is it wrong, from a moral standpoint, to "cheat" on your mate. Just because someone tells us so? Say I have a significant other, support her, give her all of my time and energy, love her to death, but on occasion, have some meaningless sex with a complete stranger. Someone of whom I have no feelings whatsoever and will never see again. Does that make me a bad person? Does this mean I have no good values?

I tell you there are some good debates that can rage from this topic! ed:

[Mr.X]

whether or not cheating is morally wrong....I think most of the "bad" feeling stems from the risk of destroying
a good thing with a person who has become so close to you...being selfish in other words.

If it was your girl doing the screwing-around instead of you, would you still be pondering the moral implications?
...or would you go off in a hypocritical, double-standard rage...?.....[img]http://www.sector101.fsnet.co.uk/yahoo/smileys/22.gif[/img]

[Rev Aristotle Jones]

Cheating on someone does not make you a "bad" person, although certain people will consider you as such. If you really get that close to someone then you would consider their feelings more (being unselfish, to clarify the above post). Your actions will cause a reaction from your loved one - if you care, you wouldn't want to see them hurt, which is waht would happen via the meaningless sex.

Women on the whole view sex differently to men as well, so although you consider it meangless sex with some toothless whore (just kidding) - she would have all sorts of turmoil because she most likely sees sex as something sacred shared between two people. The worst being her self eteem as your actions would make her feel worthless.

The problem is that our instincts are in a battle for control with our civility. If your head rules your body (rather than body) then you would quantify the risks of an illicit encounter as opposed to your body just going "Graaah, shag everything that moves, sod the consequences, that's another day".

The worst thing that an animal can have is higher reasoning, it just causes conflict....

[Recycled Spooge]

[quote=Totenkopf]

Originally Posted by "Rev Aristotle Jones":3f09f

The only thing that separates us from the animals is reasoning - which is why we do not usually kill each other over something trivial, like, you have a twinky that I want, I brick you death, I have the Twinky

However, we have been conditioned that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable, we won't get away with it and will be punished for it.

Same goes for infidelity - it is "easier" stray if you come from a culture, or upbringing where monogamy was eroded. The opposite is true of those who hold monogomy as a virtue and will not break it no matter what temptations there are.

I have been monogamous for the past 8 years - one woman. I have been tempted, but never indulged.

Would I kill you for a Twinky? If I could get away it, too right.

I must disagree to an extent. I believe that a fear of consequences holds most back from killing. Why have I not killed anyone? Because, I don't want to become Bubba's b!tch in a state pen. If there were no law against it, then we would have some big time issues as a society. On the other hand, there are few consequences to cheating, you will not go to jail, you will not be fined (well, unless a divorce ensues ed: ) etc. However, if you told me that I would go to jail for ten years if I cheated on my wife or gf, then there is no doubt in my mind that I would think twice about it. I would not think twice about it because I am breaking some virtue of mine.

Now I don't disagree that there are some out there who can refrain from doing it. But they are few and far between. What worries me is that you would never cheat on your mate, due to your beliefs on the wrongdoing of cheating, but you would kill me for a twinky......nice virtue system. biggrin:[/quote:3f09f]
So, I'll assume you're not a religious man.

[SoLiDUS]

Hehehe biggrin:

I disagree that cheating is "warranted" for the purpose of "spreading our
seed": face it boys; you aren't sleeping with that hot chick because you want
to ensure that the human race lives on... but rather because she's a HOT
CHICK.

I can't honestly say what I would do in such a situation because I've never
had the "pleasure" of having a girlfriend long enough for this to happen...

[Recycled Spooge]

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

Hehehe biggrin:

I disagree that cheating is "warranted" for the purpose of "spreading our
seed": face it boys; you aren't sleeping with that hot chick because you want
to ensure that the human race lives on... but rather because she's a HOT
CHICK.

I can't honestly say what I would do in such a situation because I've never
had the "pleasure" of having a girlfriend long enough for this to happen...

Does a male rat think about the entire rat race when it has sex with a female rat? It's instinct, not some huge phylosophy. :P

[SoLiDUS]

You're being silly Spooge, so I won't hold it against you this time.

I wouldn't want to hear that my girlfriend has been sleeping around, just
because... "oh it's just sex, silly!" Would you ? Can you honestly tell me it
wouldn't bother you ? I can't: that's why I wouldn't do it...

I would tap into my animalistic side and kill the sucker for endulging
biggrin:

[Korvac]

[quote="Bean 2":8918b]Do u have any tips on how to get girls? Just wondering thanks.[/quote:8918b]

RUFFIES!

[Star85]

I feel its the suddective women. Its their fault.

[mr.miyagi]

[quote=Totenkopf]

Originally Posted by "Bean 2":8c442

Do u have any tips on how to get girls? Just wondering thanks.

I use to have the hardest time getting girls. I was the nice shy guy, who tried to be the perfect gentleman. Guess what? That doesn't work very well these days. I have found, at least in the places that I hang out, that women like cocky, arrogant, outspoken men. But there is a fine line with that approach. You go overboard, and it'll backfire. I would say that you must show confidence, and a good sense of humor. Crack witty little jokes that'll get them laughing. If you can get them to laugh, you are in.

However, take this advice with a grain of salt. So much depends on the woman and the situation. With all of my long-term girlfriends, I went with the gentleman approach as I was looking for a relationship.

Anyway, I am sure that there are others out there with some good ideas as well.[/quote:8c442]
well said man. I've had this attitude to 'girls' all my life, to be the gentleman, show respect, show your true feelings and all its got me is friends which of course is great but when you get sick and tired of being the one who makes people laugh, the person to depend on, being the nicest guy on the block can be the loneliest one too. ive always made friends quite easily and can get on great with all girls too but because im not a pushy, arrogant meathead i rarely get results. right now i feel a girl who thinks similarly to me, understands my humour and relaxed attitude to life. id never purposefully change my ways for a shag, id rather wait it out for a less butch minded, anti-romantic bitch who doesn't give a shit about love and is numb to what she truly wants that'll make her happy.
Through the media, peoples attitudes towards relationships, pregnancy and personal pride have been kept out of the way by slogans, commercials, celebrity lifestyles and all sorts of other propaganda that easily influences the misinformed average sheep of the street.
as well as losing personal opinion, people are being made lazier and lazier as they find that the media can decide most things for them, therefore categorised lifestyles are simply taken up like hobbies.
blah blah
im the kind of guy who'd search far and wide for the REAL girls, not the part time ho on the street......and i may jus have found my dream girl

[Mr.X]

a ho on the street is worth two on the net

anon.

I bet the people who voted no are girls.