ATheism - Page 22

Ydiss · 06-18-2003, 08:09 PM

[quote:3ccfb]

What? Like they did lots of "bad stuff"?[/quote:3ccfb]

No, they're just normal people who try to live normal lives, attend church on Sundays and do various other normal every-day things.

[quote:3ccfb]Or they didn't try to 'save' you?[/quote:3ccfb]

No, they don't. They, you know, talk to me. About things.

Anyone who continually spouted religion to me would not remain my friend for long.

If Heaven is to be full of people like that then I am quite glad I am not going there.

But, I can tell you this, I am not going to "Hell". It's as fictional as Gandalf, dwarves and my little pony.

When I die my brain will stop functioning and, seeing as I never witnessed anything before my brain started functioning, I would imagine that I would not be able to witness this "unending darkness, the gnashing of the teeth and undying fires".

I'll be dead. At peace. Finito. So long as my children and family live on, I am immortal.

That's what we are here for. That's what our bodies are designed to do, like every other single living organism on the planet.

Fucking shitter, really, but I intend to enjoy as much of it as I can. I don't need to fool myself into believing that when it is all over I will live a spiritual life on another plane.

Life is too bloody short to be worrying about what will happen after it. To live a rigid life restricted by rules written millenia ago by people who are long dead in some hope that I will earn my place in a fictional man-made fantasy is not my fucking idea of a good life.

And, until it is proven to exist, no matter how much you "accept" and "believe" in something, it is a fantasy.

I don't want to read another damned line about how religion is about morals and ideals - Duke_of_ray has blown that out of the water.

It's nothing to do with fucking morals. As he has said, Christianity is not about being a good person it is about accepting Jesus and God. If you do that, no matter how much of a twisted fuck you are, you will be saved and you will go to "Heaven".

What a crock of fucking shit.

Thanks.

Duke_of_Ray · 06-18-2003, 08:38 PM

The reason I keep on trying to tell you of Christ is becuase I care ofr you all, and I do not want any of you to go to hell. Christianity is about being good, but the acts alone do not save you, its Jesus, if you are a true Christian you will not go around killing people.

[quote:b45d1]I just have to ask you Duke. YOu keep saying we are no longer on your hands. SO why the hell do you care anymore? let us go to hell if thats how it is. IF you continue to try to press god into our minds and "Souls" you will continue to have our blood on your hands as you say. So therefore you have failed ot teach us. and it is your fault. So to avoid this just dont try to do anything for us [/quote:b45d1]

No its not on my hands, now its your choice, and your own fualt.

I hate for this thread to end with many of you still having lost souls, but maybe one day you will realize the truth and accept it. Good luck, and I will pray for you all.

06-18-2003, 08:42 PM

quite sad really...

XanatosBMAGE · 06-18-2003, 08:43 PM

I'm a believer and don't care what others think about it.

Unknown_Sniper · 06-18-2003, 09:08 PM

good for you. And duke my soul is not lost. it is in me....not in the religious sence.....but yeah. thx for caring and all

Unknown_Sniper · 06-18-2003, 09:13 PM

good for you. And duke my soul is not lost. it is in me....not in the religious sence.....but yeah. thx for caring and all

White Rabbit · 06-18-2003, 10:12 PM

JESUS LOVES YOU ALL
[img]http://members.aol.com/lovethisgig/jesus/jesuscolor.jpg[/img]

Duke_of_Ray · 06-18-2003, 10:21 PM

[quote:d7700]JESUS LOVES YOU ALL
[/quote:d7700]
Yes He does.......

06-18-2003, 10:47 PM

OK wise guy,

it is well known in the scientific community that the human conciousness is nothing more than a collection of electric impulses being exchanged between neurons, like a computer only a couple thousand times more advanced.

How exactly does one's "soul" live on if it is only a collection of impulses between neurons?

Duke_of_Ray · 06-18-2003, 11:47 PM

[quote:534ff]OK wise guy,

it is well known in the scientific community that the human conciousness is nothing more than a collection of electric impulses being exchanged between neurons, like a computer only a couple thousand times more advanced.

How exactly does one's "soul" live on if it is only a collection of impulses between neurons?[/quote:534ff]

Remeber, its God we are talkingof here, with Him all things are possible. Its almost so simple its hard to coprehend.

SoLiDUS · 06-19-2003, 03:29 AM

[quote:414f4]Life is too bloody short to be worrying about what will happen after it. To live a rigid life restricted by rules written millenia ago by people who are long dead in some hope that I will earn my place in a fictional man-made fantasy is not my fucking idea of a good life. [/quote:414f4]

Even though forceful, I find this very elegant and powerful. Well said...

[quote:414f4]it is well known in the scientific community that the human conciousness is nothing more than a collection of electric impulses being exchanged between neurons, like a computer only a couple thousand times more advanced.

How exactly does one's "soul" live on if it is only a collection of impulses between neurons? [/quote:414f4]

Not quite. The brain does appear to be the seat of the mind, of your
consciousness. However, it could very well simply be a radio receiving
a signal: in likeness, it could also be nothing more than the processing
center for your real mind; the electro-magnetic energy surrounding your
physical body. If the scientific community knew so many of the things
you said, we wouldn't require keyboards and mice to communicate over
this inter-network: they believe it, but that doesn't quite make it real,
just as believing that you can fly with your bear arms won't make it so.
Neuronal activity creating consciousness is only a hypothesis...

Duke_of_Ray · 06-19-2003, 09:18 AM

When you choose to ccep Christ into your life, you have a real feeling of happieness, one that cannot be matched by anything else in this world. Its not just some impulse from the mind, its a real feeling, not some fake psycological thing, and I guess you have to have it to know its real.

[quote:c82e3]Even though forceful, I find this very elegant and powerful. Well said... [/quote:c82e3]

If still are not saved, you better be worrying a whole lot.

06-19-2003, 10:29 AM

Doesn't say somewhere in the bible that you can't cut your hair or use the washroom?

Duke_of_Ray, I just want to say, that because of you preaching to us on an Internet gaming fourm, You have saved me from my sins, and that I will ever be faithful to my lord thy Satan. Thank You.

BallisticWookie · 06-19-2003, 11:00 AM

I have an opinion on this issue. Opinions are like fucking assholes, everybody has one. Now, accept the fact that people are going to be on both sides of the fence on this issue....AND MOVE ON.

Zoner · 06-19-2003, 11:01 AM

Amen.

(Pun intended)