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Default 01-31-2003, 04:22 PM

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Where did I say I have a problem with slavery?
So you think slaverys ok? oOo:


I don't see how slavery made the US a rich nation, if anything it made the plantation owners rich.

and are you fishing for a ban even though you just got your name back?[/quote:fbc9e]

I did'nt make the nation rich, it made as you said the southern plantation owners rich and yes, they did pay taxes however not enough to ellivate the country on a huge scale. Ed just likes talking down to people, its makes him feel bigger than he is. Anyway to get him banned faster Joe?
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 04:22 PM

[quote="The ED! Foundation":c3a90]Are you pulling a "PEST" - whats the deal here.[/quote:c3a90]

Dont drag me into this. You dug this hole all by yourself.

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Default 01-31-2003, 04:31 PM

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Are you pulling a "PEST" - whats the deal here.
Dont drag me into this. You dug this hole all by yourself.

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There is a serious hole of denial being built here, but for those that cant connect the dots here we go...

For 200 years slavery was rampant across the nation, not just in the Southern states as revisionist history would have you believe. It was on plantations and it was in industry. The jobs that whites didn't want to do, were given to slaves and they were glad to do it. Without having to pay wages to MILLIONS of AMERICANS, the nation enjoyed a nice cushion of profit in it's endeavors.

Or do you think it was American innovation that allowed this?

As for WAR contributing to Americas rise post-WWI, if you think anything BUT it helped you are sadly out of your mind and in need of more education. You will not find ONE historian to tell you that WWII pulled America out of its depression and has been a leading reason why America has been able to sustain its position at the top of the heap.

But then this is just GOD just speaking to the masses again eh GREEN, and you still refuse to admit even the tiniest bit of truth to yourself. Shame really.

Fishing for a ban...hardly.
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 04:38 PM

[quote="The ED! Foundation":d6c20][quote=pest]
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Are you pulling a "PEST" - whats the deal here.
Dont drag me into this. You dug this hole all by yourself.

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There is a serious hole of denial being built here, but for those that cant connect the dots here we go...

For 200 years slavery was rampant across the nation, not just in the Southern states as revisionist history would have you believe. It was on plantations and it was in industry. The jobs that whites didn't want to do, were given to slaves and they were glad to do it. Without having to pay wages to MILLIONS of AMERICANS, the nation enjoyed a nice cushion of profit in it's endeavors.

Or do you think it was American innovation that allowed this?

As for WAR contributing to Americas rise post-WWI, if you think anything BUT it helped you are sadly out of your mind and in need of more education. You will not find ONE historian to tell you that WWII pulled America out of its depression and has been a leading reason why America has been able to sustain its position at the top of the heap.

But then this is just GOD just speaking to the masses again eh GREEN, and you still refuse to admit even the tiniest bit of truth to yourself. Shame really.

Fishing for a ban...hardly.[/quote:d6c20]

I never said war was not a big factor in the recovery of the United State, NO WHERE did i say this, I said that these two factors were not the only factors to effect the status of the U.S. After slavery ended we did not go into a deep depression, infact the U.S. economy began to grow ever richer and was doing EXTREMLY well untill the stock market crash. You also seem to think that only blacks were there doing the jobs the middle-class, or rich people did not want (it was'nt just whites you moron) what about the Irish or the Asians? You are not the smartest man on earth, as you would like to believe, so why not stop telling people that they are stupid and your here to tell them the truth? hake:
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 04:39 PM

Oh and slavery was only rampant, in the United States of America for 87 years. Before that you can yell at England.
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 04:42 PM

Here is my take Ed.

Slavery fueled an agricultural based economy in the south. The weath of America was based in the industrial North. That industry was built on the backs of irish and italian immigrants (among others) that were treated only slightly better than slaves.

Americas rise to a superpower was cemented by WWII and fueled by an economy that was forced to expand by the war and fed by a country with a vast land mass rich in natural resources.

Yes, slaves fueled a southern economy, but that economy was small in comparision to the north. The end of slavery crushed teh economy of the south, yet the north continued as always. That tells me that slavery was not the force behind the rise of a nation. It was only barely economically viable before the cival war.

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Default 01-31-2003, 04:44 PM

[quote="The ED! Foundation":3419a]As for WAR contributing to Americas rise post-WWI, if you think anything BUT it helped you are sadly out of your mind and in need of more education. You will not find ONE historian to tell you that WWII pulled America out of its depression and has been a leading reason why America has been able to sustain its position at the top of the heap.

But then this is just GOD just speaking to the masses again eh GREEN, and you still refuse to admit even the tiniest bit of truth to yourself. Shame really.[/quote:3419a]

i never read anything in this thread that even suggested that WW2 pulled the US out of the depression. you must just be pulling facts out of your ass to appear smart again.

and you apparently think your god
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 04:47 PM

[quote="Pfc.Green":9277a]Oh and slavery was only rampant, in the United States of America for 87 years. Before that you can yell at England.[/quote:9277a]

or rome or the assyrians or the egyptians
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 04:54 PM

just a couple of points
1 ED your an ass
2 how much did the blacks in Africa make off the rich white southerners when they sold thier own people to them?

OK a few points
3 do I get reperations because i have family that died freeing the slaves????

to the piont of the thread: If you got called you would go..... that my friend deserves the utmost respect!!!!!!
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Default 01-31-2003, 04:55 PM

[quote:e0386]I never said war was not a big factor in the recovery of the United State, NO WHERE did i say this, I said that these two factors were not the only factors to effect the status of the U.S. After slavery ended we did not go into a deep depression, infact the U.S. economy began to grow ever richer and was doing EXTREMLY well untill the stock market crash. You also seem to think that only blacks were there doing the jobs the middle-class, or rich people did not want (it was'nt just whites you moron) what about the Irish or the Asians? You are not the smartest man on earth, as you would like to believe, so why not stop telling people that they are stupid and your here to tell them the truth?[/quote:e0386]

Are you kidding me?

What then, Mr. Green, contributed to the success of white-America during the 17 to 1800's. Please tell me that. Cause since you seem to KNOW for a FACT that I am wrong you gotta help me out here.

As for WWII and the United States economic recovery...

http://www.encyclopediabritanica.com

Do a bit of the research through glasses that are anything BUT rose tinted. I think you will find that it is very clear that WAR carried the nation OUT of its depression. Not innovative new business models. Not new thinkings. WAR.
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 05:05 PM

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":88cf7]just a couple of points
1 ED your an ass[/quote:88cf7]

seems like it today

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":88cf7]2 how much did the blacks in Africa make off the rich white southerners when they sold thier own people to them?[/quote:88cf7]

my guess is that rival tribes sold each other off, so they didn't technically sell their own people and probably not much

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":88cf7]3 do I get reperations because i have family that died freeing the slaves????[/quote:88cf7]

probably not
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 05:33 PM

[quote:127e4]just a couple of points
1 ED your an ass[/quote:127e4]

Thank you.

[quote:127e4]2 how much did the blacks in Africa make off the rich white southerners when they sold thier own people to them?[/quote:127e4]

If you call screaming while they are hunted like game an act of free trade than I dunno - how much?[/quote]

[quote:127e4]OK a few points
3 do I get reperations because i have family that died freeing the slaves????[/quote:127e4]

I dunno, ask the guy who brought that up in the first place.
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 06:05 PM

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you'd be lucky to go, travel alittle nothing much gonna happen over there anyway.
Asshat! You have to be the dumbest mofo Iv'e seen in the forums dude!
You are a fucking retard!
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 06:16 PM

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you'd be lucky to go, travel alittle nothing much gonna happen over there anyway.
Asshat! You have to be the dumbest mofo Iv'e seen in the forums dude!
You are a ------- retard!
Yeah, that wasn't the brightest statement in the world. If they are calling up inactive reserves then the shit is gonna go down. And my idea of a good time is not gunning down Iraqi's with bombs strapped to them as they run at my tank. Well, maybe that would be alright..... ed:
  
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Default 01-31-2003, 06:17 PM

what's an article 15?
  
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