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06-02-2003, 07:12 PM
European Union will own America i mean americas strong but i mean cmon!
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06-02-2003, 07:13 PM
US is one country.
Europe is many armies.
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06-02-2003, 07:22 PM
[quote=Ferich]
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Originally Posted by "Capt. John Miller":4a3d0
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Originally Posted by Ferich
Hell no. Every Military coordinated together in Europe would crush the United States into pieces. The SAS and KSK would destroy the SEALS and every other US Special Forces.
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oops before loctness i cant let this one go, you underestimate the SEALs capabilities. You only hear what the media shares about them, they are 100 times better than what you think they are.
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You also underestimate the SAS. A grouping of countries best fighting men vs the Navy SEALS. Stop being so ignorant and thinking the US Military is invincible, they're not.
And Office Depot, all of those aircraft wouldn't have time to be tank killing while they're scrambling dog fights in the sky.[/quote:4a3d0]
Did i say they were invincible fuck no i didnt think so, but i do believe they are as good as the SAS, SAS is probably better but not by much. Dont forget Delta also.
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06-02-2003, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Innoxx
Alfa (Spetznaz), GIGN, GSG9, KSK, SAS, OMON, SPAP, SEK > SEALS
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Add Delta Force,Rangers, and the Green Berets onto there and you have a pretty good fight, but you need to understand, those Spec Ops units are the most Elite of each country, not just the back up spec ops units. For Example: German has SEK ( SEALS in USA,sort of ) they also have KSK ( Rangers ) and GSG9 ( Delta Force. ) and once we add these all up from every country, it's going to be 29 spec ops units vs 4 American ones....And so on. 35 Armored Divisions vs 5 ( or how many ) American Armored Divisions. Know what I mean? Everything the USA has, Europe has triple.
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06-02-2003, 07:29 PM
Well yeah no shit its tons of countries vs. one country whos military isnt that big, we rely on technology and special units now. This is a bullshit thread you cant even compare this anyway. How can one country start a war with a fucking continent?
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06-02-2003, 07:30 PM
[quote:1fffd]Our navy seals would destroy them. thats my opinion[/quote:1fffd]
Remind me again of how many "successful" rescue missions the SEALS have had, the recent bs one with that girl from the US Army dosen't count because it was a fake. Oh yeah thats right, none!!!
The SAS/SBS are far superior to the SEALS in their training and skill.
BTW I think this threat is preposterous but what the hell.
I'm not sure whether the UK would side with the USA or not, but since technically the UK is part of the European continent I guess it's part of Europe for this discussion.
The USA may have many carriers but judging by the results from the British Sea Harriers vs F15, F16, and F14's it does not seem to make much difference in aircraft capability, your aircraft are not as '1337' as they look.
Lets not forget that Germany has some Mig 29's with very capable pilots.
The fact that half the world might be dragged into the conflict is also quite interesting. I'm not sure if the Commonwealth would still support Britain in a major war but if they did the USA would be up against Australia, NZ and Canada aswell.
Lets also not forget that Europe is not just Western Europe. The Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Budapest, Turkey and many other countries in the East would also be part of this war, not just France, Italy, Germany and Spain.
The Italian navy has aircraft carriers as does the French and Royal Navy, the Scandinavians have very capable submarines. The Dutch have some of the best anti aircraft destroyers in the world. The Royal Navy submarines were never detected by the Russians throughout the Cold War.
The German Leopard tanks and Brit Challanger tanks are as or more capable than the M1A2. European countries also have ample air defence systems the 'BAe Scimitar system' and other SAMS.
European countries have some very capable special forces. The Dutch Marines, the Italian Marines, the French Foreign Legion, German GSG9, French GIGN French Paras. The German 1st Fallschirmjager Division, 1st Gevurgsjager Division, the Norwiegen Jagers, the Danish Fromankorpset, the Belgian Le Regiment Para-Commando. The French Force d'Action Rapide, the Italian Comsubin, the San Marco Marines Battalion, the Austrian Cobra Force, to mention but a few...
The SAS/SBS have had more successful missions than any other special forces. In contrast the US special forces history is largely one of failure, Operation Eagle Claw, the invasion of Grenada, Delta force in Somalia etc. The SAS were actually responsible for the invention and training of Delta Force.
The British Royal Marines alone have the longest and most arduous training compared to any other conventional forces in the world, the test just to be accepted is called the 'USMC' test, the test required to join the US Marines. The USA may have the equiptment to kick some serious ass but IMHO after this so called war is over there won't be anyone around to celebrate the victory.
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06-02-2003, 07:57 PM
[quote="Capt. John Miller":c0e31]Well yeah no shit its tons of countries vs. one country whos military isnt that big, we rely on technology and special units now. This is a bullshit thread you cant even compare this anyway. How can one country start a war with a fucking continent?[/quote:c0e31]
I know, I totally agree.
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06-02-2003, 08:14 PM
I think those pesky invisible B-2 Spirits armed with JDAMs would wreak havoc with any invasion or transport fleet.
Also Europe would need to rely exclusively on Mig-31s with R-33s (NATO AA-9 "Amos") to defeat US F-14s with AIM-54 Phoenix missiles.
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06-02-2003, 08:20 PM
The USA would win angel:
Whats the quote that Yamoto made during WWII about the Japanese invading the US??
Something about there would be a gun pointed at them from every bush.
Damn right you smelly bitches in Europe, you'd have to deal with us hillbilly rednecks who nearly have 10-15 guns in EACH household, lol.
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06-02-2003, 08:26 PM
[quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":cb333]The USA would win angel:
Whats the quote that Yamoto made during WWII about the Japanese invading the US??
Something about there would be a gun pointed at them from every bush.
Damn right you smelly bitches in Europe, you'd have to deal with us hillbilly rednecks who nearly have 10-15 guns in EACH household, lol.[/quote:cb333]
So we would win the war because of west virginia. cool:
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06-02-2003, 08:27 PM
[quote="Cpt. Obvious":b21b9][quote="Cpt. Zapotoski":b21b9]The USA would win angel:
Whats the quote that Yamoto made during WWII about the Japanese invading the US??
Something about there would be a gun pointed at them from every bush.
Damn right you smelly bitches in Europe, you'd have to deal with us hillbilly rednecks who nearly have 10-15 guns in EACH household, lol.[/quote:b21b9]
So we would win the war because of west virginia. cool:[/quote:b21b9]
can inbreds shoot well?
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06-02-2003, 08:28 PM
[quote=Pyro][quote="Cpt. Obvious":ebfb7]
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Originally Posted by "Cpt. Zapotoski":ebfb7
The USA would win angel:
Whats the quote that Yamoto made during WWII about the Japanese invading the US??
Something about there would be a gun pointed at them from every bush.
Damn right you smelly bitches in Europe, you'd have to deal with us hillbilly rednecks who nearly have 10-15 guns in EACH household, lol.
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So we would win the war because of west virginia. cool:[/quote:ebfb7]
can inbreds shoot well?[/quote:ebfb7]
are you kidding, tgat's what they do best (well that and drinking moonshine)
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06-02-2003, 08:29 PM
and here come the incest jokes
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06-02-2003, 08:29 PM
They get distracted by their sister/wife/aunt/daughter walking by.
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06-02-2003, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Zoner91
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Originally Posted by Innoxx
Canada would invade from the north
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We would? Cool. cool:
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*puts on hockey helmet* CHARGE!!!!
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