TROY - Page 3

Machette · 05-17-2004, 10:08 AM

they need to make a roman empire movie...not another gladiator oOo:

imported_Fluffy_Bunny · 05-17-2004, 10:18 AM

aye they need to make a historically accurate representation of what it was like for the average 'julius' soldier in the Roman Empire. Like a Roman version of Stalingrad or something rock: I would really like to see a movie about the Crusades or something with knights & archers etc.

But what would really rock is if there was a movie about the Napoleonic wars with Austerlitz/Trafalgar/Waterloo rock:

Tystnad · 05-17-2004, 10:41 AM

I wouldnt mind seeing a movie about Charles XII and his fearsome men.
Sweden has never been, nor will it ever be, as mighty as it was back then. rock:

elstatec · 05-17-2004, 10:48 AM

if brad pitt wasnt in it id have more respect for it.

Ferich · 05-17-2004, 10:50 AM

Just watch Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, you get it all.

ninty · 05-17-2004, 05:31 PM

Has anyone read Homer's Iliad before seeing the film? I head they cut out the whole premise for the war in the first place, being the Gods and the wedding.

The thing I hate about movies based on books is that so many things are changed. I really feel the movie should be an exact representation of the book. Its not the movie makers decision on how the movie should turn out, but the guy who originally wrote the thing. I know everything can't stay the same, so I guess i'll have to go into this one with an open mind and seperate the movie from everything else.

Pyro · 05-17-2004, 05:41 PM

2 hrs and 45 minutes of brad pitts ass.

That is the perfect descripsion of Troy.

Machette · 05-17-2004, 06:02 PM

pyro just shut up rock:

Tripper · 05-17-2004, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ninty9

Has anyone read Homer's Iliad before seeing the film? I head they cut out the whole premise for the war in the first place, being the Gods and the wedding.

The thing I hate about movies based on books is that so many things are changed. I really feel the movie should be an exact representation of the book. Its not the movie makers decision on how the movie should turn out, but the guy who originally wrote the thing. I know everything can't stay the same, so I guess i'll have to go into this one with an open mind and seperate the movie from everything else.

You have to remember, that both Homer's Illiad AND Virgil's Aeneid depict the events of the trojan war. So, conflicting ideas exist.....As far as I know, the film is based on the myths presented by BOTH poems.

05-17-2004, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyro

2 hrs and 45 minutes of brad pitts ass.

That is the perfect descripsion of Troy.

and you enjoyed every second of it, licking your lips at the raunchy parts.

Pyro · 05-17-2004, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Acideyez

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Originally Posted by Pyro

2 hrs and 45 minutes of brad pitts ass.

That is the perfect descripsion of Troy.

and you enjoyed every second of it, licking your lips at the raunchy parts.

I am just pissed I never got to see his unit.

jujumantb · 05-18-2004, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ninty9

Has anyone read Homer's Iliad before seeing the film? I head they cut out the whole premise for the war in the first place, being the Gods and the wedding.

The thing I hate about movies based on books is that so many things are changed. I really feel the movie should be an exact representation of the book. Its not the movie makers decision on how the movie should turn out, but the guy who originally wrote the thing. I know everything can't stay the same, so I guess i'll have to go into this one with an open mind and seperate the movie from everything else.

Well yes, but they went for a more "historical fiction" type of movie instead of a supernatural one with the gods and stuff. All three main characters in the film (hector, paris, achilles) reject the gods.

bukdez · 05-18-2004, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripper

You have to remember, that both Homer's Illiad AND Virgil's Aeneid depict the events of the trojan war. So, conflicting ideas exist.....As far as I know, the film is based on the myths presented by BOTH poems.

Virgils Aeneid was written some several centuries after the Illiad, and must be taken with a grain a salt, as much of the poem is Augustan Propaganda meant to justify the growing imperial activities of Rome at that time, focusign less on the traditional epic folklore... also the Aeneid takes place primarily after the war, and lends little insight into the actual fighting...

Tripper · 05-18-2004, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bukdez

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Originally Posted by Tripper

You have to remember, that both Homer's Illiad AND Virgil's Aeneid depict the events of the trojan war. So, conflicting ideas exist.....As far as I know, the film is based on the myths presented by BOTH poems.

Virgils Aeneid was written some several centuries after the Illiad, and must be taken with a grain a salt, as much of the poem is Augustan Propaganda meant to justify the growing imperial activities of Rome at that time, focusign less on the traditional epic folklore... also the Aeneid takes place primarily after the war, and lends little insight into the actual fighting...

Yeah, I think I was high when I wrote that...........It makes no sense.

Pick Axe · 05-18-2004, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jujumantb

They had them retreating and had the high ground, no sense...
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Then there was the scene where the trojans mount a surprise attack at the greeks and they all decide, in the middle of the HUGE battle, to crowd around "achilles" and hector and watch them fight. Then when hector kills "arhilles", the almost 80,000 guys decide that was enough fighting for the day and they walk back to the city and the greeks back to their ships...

Didn't the Greek archers have the High ground? ( a ridge before the beach?)
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That's just mythology stuff. I thaught it fit the plot perfectly.