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Default 01-20-2006, 09:24 PM

nothing i have found on the internet has anything todo with my opinion.

The media agencies make news reports from stories that are past on to them, and will by principle of manor not have very equal sided views, say like Invading Iraq for freedom from the likes of foxnews, but say the likes of Al Jazerra will have the opposite view toward this story. Hench the saying, 'dont believe everything you read' comes into bearing



does anyone else feel like some people here think they are above the rest of us because they believe what fox news says? I certainly feel that way.

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Default 01-20-2006, 10:15 PM

I haven't watched fox news (or any other TV for the matter) for over 3 months. I just went to FoxNews.com to get that article b/c it was the quickest way. I just used it more to point out that he made a new tape, rather than to hear what the translation is for it.


  
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Default 01-20-2006, 10:18 PM

But the sources you are refusing to beleive are more than just fox news, it's almost all media in its entirety
  
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Default 01-20-2006, 10:19 PM

wasnt anything todo with you getting that article coleman, i just used fox news as an example in reply to c13232323


  
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Default 01-20-2006, 10:22 PM

because it's easy to lump people who listen to any media with people who watch Fox news which is admitedly biased towards the right
  
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Default 01-20-2006, 10:34 PM

news does not mean evidence.


and yes foxnews is admitedly right biased as you said, but CNN, NBC etc dont exactly cover the middle ground for world news.


  
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Default 01-20-2006, 10:46 PM

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news does not mean evidence.
it doesn't mean fallacy either
  
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Default 01-21-2006, 01:18 AM

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news does not mean evidence.
it doesn't mean fallacy either
so you watch CNN ?
  
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Default 01-21-2006, 01:20 AM

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he seems to be a huge motivational issue behind this war on terror, so if he was dead, or is captured i wouldnt be surprised if it would be covered up so the capitalist war on terror can continue.
of course if he were dead, al qaeda themselves could be keeping that information quiet for the same motivational reasons, but your head is so far up your arse you couldn't see something like that being done by anyone other than Americans.
wouldnt think so at all, they would immortalize him as a martyr as Al Queda is more than one person, but anyway your head is so far up your own arse that you fail to see more than just what the western news channels say.[/quote:c8048]
That makes no sense to me, whereas in fact I am only offering an alternative scenario ("al qaeda themselves could be keeping that information quiet").

a) you say "so if he was dead, or is captured i wouldnt be surprised if it would be covered up so the capitalist( oOo: ) war on terror can continue"

b) you also say to my suggestion that al qaeda may keep osamas death or capture quiet "wouldnt think so at all, they would immortalize him as a martyr".

..just how would the evil Americans be able to "cover up" osamas death/capture while at the same time the entire Islamic world is announcing his death/capture and immortalizing his martyrdom?
  
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Default 01-21-2006, 08:30 AM

[quote:0271e]just how would the evil Americans be able to "cover up" osamas death/capture while at the same time the entire Islamic world is announcing his death/capture and immortalizing his martyrdom?[/quote:0271e]

1. The entire islamic world are not members of Al Queda, so would not immortlaize him beyond your short sighted ignorance.

2. I never said anything about Americans being Evil, i just said they are not exactly good either based on their foreign policies but thats another story.

3. If the Americans or whoever captured or killed him and chose to cover it up, and Al Queda thinks otherwise and so does the whole world then that is a covered up situation. But if he is killed but body found by Al Queda they would immortalize his martyrdom, and a cover up would not be possible by the Western whoever governments. It is a two or more different scenarios depending on how he is captured or found dead etc, dont mix them up as the same if you have mistaken to.


  
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Default 01-21-2006, 02:28 PM

1. The entire islamic world are not members of Al Queda, so would not immortlaize him beyond your short sighted ignorance.

I didn't say the entire Islamic world is part of al qaeda, I said they would be ANNOUNCING it, don't you think that sort of news would get around, seeing as in your short sighted igorance you have dismissed any chance of an al qaeda cover-up of such an event?

2. I never said anything about Americans being Evil, i just said they are not exactly good either based on their foreign policies but thats another story.

Ooh sorry, it's just that your posts are those of an anti American pro Islamic fundamentalist fan boi.

3. If the Americans or whoever captured or killed him and chose to cover it up, and Al Queda thinks otherwise and so does the whole world then that is a covered up situation. But if he is killed but body found by Al Queda they would immortalize his martyrdom, and a cover up would not be possible by the Western whoever governments. It is a two or more different scenarios depending on how he is captured or found dead etc, dont mix them up as the same if you have mistaken to (sic).

LOL! ..how the fuck would they "think otherwise"? ..do you think he is just alone on a mountainside and could be captured or killed with his entourage, bodyguards etc "thinking otherwise"?

"..dudes, anyone seen osama?"
"yeah he went to the mall...but wait! that was like two months ago!1"
"omfg he's obviously been killed or captured, but let's think otherwise"
"k."

I'll repeat, al qaeda could cover up his death, whether it was by natural causes or missile strike or any situation where the capitalist dogs have no way of confirming anything.

Capitalist dogs on the other hand would have a very hard time killing or capturing him whilst all those around him "thought otherwise".
  
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Default 01-21-2006, 07:55 PM

think otherwise was the wrong way to describe, but more as if say he was killed in a result of the carpet bombings in afganistan, no one would know where he would be let alone know if he was dead.

Im not saying Al Queda could not cover up his death its just they would most probaly not, as rather immortalizing him as a martyr would be the way it would go imo.


  
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