OMAHA BEACH : great respect - Page 3

02-23-2002, 02:10 AM

few people realize what a struggle these brave men went through to take that beach. sometimes i think it is forgotten in this era of political correctness

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Mope · 02-23-2002, 02:11 AM

you german right? well no offence to you but...

WTF WERE U DAMN NAZI's THINKING? YOU STUPID IGNORANT BASTARDS.

Hehe, sorry, i just have alot of respect for the soldiers of allies who fought at ohama/utah beach. but what the hell were the nazi's thinking? jeez

Sh3ll_Sh0ck · 02-23-2002, 02:43 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by SolidSnake*MGS:2*:
Look you guys are almost saying how great THE OVERLORD opertaions were.one of you said how you could imagine landin there and seeing your friends get wasted . i think this discussion should be stopped , real people died , not all wanted to fight for freedom,many just wanted to kill some GERMANS.MOH:AA is not a fucking simulator you sick person ,it is merely a game.You also say how realistic it is,did you land on OMAHA beach by any chance ?? didnt think so.You dont even know what combat is like,nor do i but i dont think i do.one of you even said how you wished you could land on OMAHA for real,u fuckin dick,real people died , people with families.if you guys just bought MOH:AA to see what WW2 was likme you are sick,buy it because it is a great game.if you like the idea of war y dont you go fight Bin Laden,you werent laughin SEPTEMBER 11th , wishing for war were you??you guys are lookin back at WW2 and thinkin it was great cause the game you played was good or the film was great.i swear if you were in WW2 you would rather be dead i bet.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Did you even bother to read throught he post? Or are you just posting random crap?

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Fear is the weakness of the mind. Remember that next time you see me on the battlefield.-ShellShock

Untersturmfuhrer Draksen · 02-23-2002, 03:19 AM

In my original post I wrote : "I respect Omahas US soldiers".
But I respect ALL SOLDIERS of WW II; Germans, Russians, US, Finnish ...

In FPS games, the big problem is that they are "First Person" games : you can see the action like it is/was.
Of course, you can't "feel" the action very well.
With MOHAA, not only in the Omaha mission, but in the whole game, you "are" in the action, part of the action.
And this action is/was WWII...
that is the main difference (IMO) between Operation F.P. or QuakeIII and MOHAA.
We play/simulate REAL EVENTS.
And the fun thing in that (I don't know if "fun" is a good word...) is that those REAL EVENTS was often an important part of our fathers or grand fathers life.

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Untersturmfuhrer J.Draksen,
Virtual Wiking Division

02-23-2002, 03:34 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Untersturmfuhrer Draksen:
In my original post I wrote : "I respect Omahas US soldiers".
But I respect ALL SOLDIERS of WW II; Germans, Russians, US, Finnish ...

In FPS games, the big problem is that they are "First Person" games : you can see the action like it is/was.
Of course, you can't "feel" the action very well.
With MOHAA, not only in the Omaha mission, but in the whole game, you "are" in the action, part of the action.
And this action is/was WWII...
that is the main difference (IMO) between Operation F.P. or QuakeIII and MOHAA.
We play/simulate REAL EVENTS.
And the fun thing in that (I don't know if "fun" is a good word...) is that those REAL EVENTS was often an important part of our fathers or grand fathers life.

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Whether we believe it or not those event were and important of part of our live. The changed an entire gerations view of the world. And for better or worse those views have been handed down to us.
I play this game for fun and wish that this is how war really was, nobody hurt, and move on with your life.

ENJOY!!!

QualityControl · 02-23-2002, 03:51 AM

Mr. Click-

You don't know much about World War II do you? Your attempt to come off as an informed person about the Pacific War and in particular the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan was really sad.

The only other alternative was to invade Japan, a move that would have ended up in over 500,000 U.S. casualties, and who knows how many Japanese casualties. I'd guess maybe 7 million Japanse casualties, in fact.

The U.S. dropped a bomb on Hiroshima. That didn't work. Japan still didn't want to surrender. The U.S. dropped a second bomb, this time on Nagasaki. The Japanese military leaders were urging the government to keep fighting. Thankfully, the political leaders in Japan, namely Hirohito, thought it'd be best to surrender before any more atomic bombs were dropped.

Prior to the atomic bomb explosions, the U.S. released thousands upon thousands of threats to the Japanese via B-29s, about this atomic bomb device. They laughed. We dropped. They didn't give in. We dropped again. They finally surrender.

The decision to drop the bombs was one of the best decisions in the 20th century.

02-23-2002, 03:58 AM

Yes, but remember one thing: the people that died when we dropped the atomic bombs were civilians, for the most part uninvolved with the war. Had we invaded, SOLDIERS would have died. I'm not saying we should or should not have bombed them, for I do not know enough about it to have an opinion. Just something to keep in mind.

Stuart

Untersturmfuhrer Draksen · 02-23-2002, 04:10 AM

<< (...)
The decision to drop the bombs was one of the best decisions in the 20th century.>>

mmmm... I don't know if you are right or if you are wrong QualityControl, hard to say, I'm not a military expert.
But with this bomb, 99% of the casualties were civilians... I don't know if it was a good thing.

Omaha, Stalingrad, Hiroshima, all those events ARE war. IMO, war is like an other dimension, something that I don't understand. In fact, it seems almost unreal.

I have heard (or read) somewhere :
"War reveals the worst part of men, never the best, always the worst."

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Untersturmfuhrer J.Draksen,
Virtual Wiking Division

02-23-2002, 04:36 AM

I just wanted to say that the guy who started this post is really cool, not often u see a eropean guy give us suport, i dont know why every country in the world hates us, but anyways, those people who said that u waisted ur time, they are the punks that guy was talking about that piss me off. They are just some computer nerds that have no respect for history and the great men who died, it sickens me everyday that nobody cares. those men died so we could be free and yet the lazy punks act like they deserve freedom and dont have to work for anything.

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"The object of war is not to die for your country, it is to make the other bastard die for his"

02-23-2002, 04:46 AM

oops cut myself off there... anywhoo i just wanna say i respect you alot, and i hope to visit france one of these days, i just wish i had family that was in ww2... BTW have you played day of defeat? i think the multiplayer gameplay is MUCH better than that of mohaa, but hey, i still respect it every bit. i have seen the movie SPR maby 30 times now... everytime i get somthing new out of it. well its 2 am so please forgive any grammer errors, and its nice to know somone cares.

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"The object of war is not to die for your country, it is to make the other bastard die for his"

02-23-2002, 05:10 AM

wow some people are really stupid in here, i don't think i ever read anything about anyone wishing for war. and also im not obsessed with omaha beach or normandy i just thought it would be a cool place to visit, i like learning about the 101st in holland more than anything else in ww2. and you cant call me a sick person for buy moh just to find out what war is like... i wach the history channel i see what it does to people i have seen real pictures of mutalted bodies, and in 2 yrs when i turn 18 im shipin my self off to army ranger school. and its not just ww2, i like learing about any war, its just a facination with me. and yes mohaa is just a game... a really cool game.

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"The object of war is not to die for your country, it is to make the other bastard die for his"

Maj.Click · 02-23-2002, 05:11 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Rickets:
i dont know why every country in the world hates us
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I wonder why.

The reason why you guys are respecting ww2 and omaha beach particularly, is beacause alot of movies and games are based on it. It's like you actually lived the moments. After all, they were soldiers, they had to sacrifice, they had to defeat the enemy by all means. And don't forget what happend to the innocent civilians in japan with the atomic bomb.

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Heckenschütze!!

02-23-2002, 05:19 AM

also about dropping the atomic bomb on japan... how else were we to end the war? an invasion of mainland japan would have caused millions of deaths on both sides, and this is a very little known fact but, the japanise were the first people to discover the jet stream, using this to their advantage they made balloon bombs, bombs that would travel east over the pacific ocean untill they reached mainland USA... now there are only 4 known casualties from these ballon bombs, a family picnicing in northern oregon. well i live on the outskirts of seattle(in the direct line of fire of balloon path of destruction!!!) and i know that if a balloon bomb landed on my house i would nuke them dirty japanise in a heartbeat. it think the bomb was the best way to end it. if hitler or japan wouldave created one first, you know they wouldave done the same to us!

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"The object of war is not to die for your country, it is to make the other bastard die for his"

Sh3ll_Sh0ck · 02-23-2002, 05:21 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by stusan:
Yes, but remember one thing: the people that died when we dropped the atomic bombs were civilians, for the most part uninvolved with the war. Had we invaded, SOLDIERS would have died. I'm not saying we should or should not have bombed them, for I do not know enough about it to have an opinion. Just something to keep in mind.

More than soldier would have died. Civilian casualties would have been in the millions.

Stuart<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Fear is the weakness of the mind. Remember that next time you see me on the battlefield.-ShellShock

02-23-2002, 05:28 AM

i am 12 years old and i love reading on ww2 i think what the heroes of d day done for our freedom is so great no one will ever forget,but i have some great pics of ww2 but i dont know how to put them in my message

how do i?

[img]www.roanoke.com/dday/images/d.day.jpg[img]