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Major General
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10-10-2006, 09:00 PM
The US isn't going after NK because it failed in its foreign policy to stop it from happening, and knows not that they cannot stop them. Maybe getting rid of non-proliferation negotiations was a bad idea afterall.
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Command Sergeant Major
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10-10-2006, 10:33 PM
Non-proliferation agreements based on blackmail and capitulation - which is exactly what the policy of the Clinton administration was - is NOT a foreign policy plan. Period. This administraiton basically went in and say "Fuck you, youre not holding us hostage. Build your little weapon, and we dare you to use it".
At the end of the day, if a country wants to start a nuclear program - it will. PERIOD. No amount of diplomacy can stop that.
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Captain
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10-10-2006, 11:28 PM
China is not stupid and I dont think they would risk the olympics and many other things that are about ot happen for them to save N. Koreas ass.
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Senior Member
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10-11-2006, 03:42 AM
China is becoming more and more publically embarrassed by NK. Slowly NK is becoming a self-supporting nation, and they're gonna feel the hurt.
Ninty: We're going after Iran right now because NK has proven (we think) that they have a bomb. Iran does not, yet. Think about it: There are two people that are going to commit suicide by jumping off a bridge. One has already commited and jumped; do you try rescue him, or convince the other potential jumper of stepping down? If you rescue the already-jumped you risk losing the other one as well.
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Senior Member
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10-11-2006, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ninty
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I can't make this any clearer. Why would the US go after Iran while NK is much farther along and a much more serious threat obviously if they have tested a nuclear weapon?
I only criticize them when they do moronic things like invade a country that has no nuclear weapons to stop them from using their non existant nuclear weapons.
If the US invaded Iraq to stop them from getting Nuclear weapons, and is threatening Iran to stop them from getting nuclear weapons, why aren't they threatening NK in the same way?
Before Iraq started, I said along with a ton of other people that NK and China seemed like a far bigger threat than Iraq. I believe that NK/China is still a far bigger threat than Iran is, howeevr their being handled in totally opposite ways.
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Maybe kus in the first Korean War China & NK whipped not only US azz but the UK/Australia/Canada & some other members of the United Nations. Chinas stance has since changed but I still consider NK being a far bigger problem to control than Iraq or Iran, maybe they realise it's just not worth the invasion.
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Senior Member
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10-11-2006, 11:34 PM
lol, my mom came home today from work and said the north korean chick at work had a fucking pms and tried swinging at the manager...
...rofl, I think this reflects the country in every way
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Major General
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10-11-2006, 11:54 PM
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10-12-2006, 04:53 AM
[quote="Fluffy_Bunny":0854c]Maybe kus in the first Korean War China & NK whipped not only US azz but the UK/Australia/Canada & some other members of the United Nations.[/quote:0854c]
For the sake of pride, nobody whipped anybody's ass in that war. It was a flip-flop match that ended in a stalemate.
Middle 1950 - NK invades
Middle/Late 1950 - NK pushes UN/SK back to what's called the "Pusan perimeter" where about 100 miles of land was still under UN control.
Late 1950 - Incheon landings, UN/SK pushes back NK all the way back up north, and in some parts, to the Chinese border.
Early 1951 - China enters on the NK side. Pushes the UN/SK forces down 2/3 of the way into SK.
1951-53 - UN/SK pushes Chinese and NK back to the 38th parallel - war becomes a standsill until the ceasefire.
Look here's a map. [url="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Korean_war_1950-1953.gif"]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 0-1953.gif[/url]
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Colonel
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10-14-2006, 08:31 PM
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10-14-2006, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by elstatec
UN seems to be functioning very quick;
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... but will do nothing if N. Korea ignores the resolution, and then get mad at the US and the UK if we try to enforce the UN resolution.
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Colonel
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10-15-2006, 04:15 AM
uh-uh, UK aint going to be enforcing anymore invasions on anyone, Blair has learned his lesson now and when he is out, there will be no more of this bullshit.
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10-15-2006, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by elstatec
uh-uh, UK aint going to be enforcing anymore invasions on anyone, Blair has learned his lesson now and when he is out, there will be no more of this bullshit.
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So your saying that whoever takes over for Blair will not be likely to enforce UN resolutions?
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Captain
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10-16-2006, 12:29 PM
my coworkers mom just emailed her saying that her step brother stationed in Korea has been notified that we are at war with korea and will be going to fight soon. i havent heard this from any of my other friends and her mom is italian, so she may have taken the conversation out of context or just misunderstood - anyone know if shots are being fired already? i doubt it eek:
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2nd Lieutenant
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10-16-2006, 12:40 PM
Nothing on CNN...yet. The troops are definately on high alert though. I know there's been one or two border skirmishes in the past couple weeks but that has happened before.
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Major General
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10-16-2006, 03:24 PM
yeah, she might be talking about those few isolated fights on the borders.
I have a friend that's been stationed in South Korea for a year and a half now. I think I'll send him an e-mail to see what's up.
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