[Tripper]

Originally Posted by m00nraker

I kinda figured it was common knowledge - Ive known since I was a little kid.

Then again, being raised in a police/military family probably has something to do with it.

Its not common knowledge at all.

[Madmartagen]

flag "rules" arent common knowledge and i think its ok because its just a fucking flag, not the holy grail. Ninty, I dont see what those links are trying to prove, I'm half mexican and there isnt a movement i know of to take back the south west. People just come here to get jobs and make a living. There were some riots and peaceful demonstrations, but Immigration isnt the only issue and its not only just Latinos rioting over here. You're going to see all kinds of banners and signs at these rallys and the media or some web blogger will always post the craziest and far fetched ideas out there. Im not saying that there inst anyone who wants the SW returned to Mexico, there probably are some people out there, but its not going to happen and the US is not in danger of losing its territory. There are alot of voices out there who get the smallest attention.

i understand that some people will get offended seeing a foreign flag flying above our national flag, but to walk up and cut down someone else's property and for that person to get a bunch of kudos is stupid. If someone told me how to run my store or how i can display anything, i would tell them to shove off. this guy should have went to the store and talked to him in person first and assumed that maybe the guy didnt know flag etiquette. things probably would have been settled w/o the uproar.

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by Madmartagen

flag "rules" arent common knowledge and i think its ok because its just a fucking flag, not the holy grail. Ninty, I dont see what those links are trying to prove, I'm half mexican and there isnt a movement i know of to take back the south west. People just come here to get jobs and make a living. There were some riots and peaceful demonstrations, but Immigration isnt the only issue and its not only just Latinos rioting over here. You're going to see all kinds of banners and signs at these rallys and the media or some web blogger will always post the craziest and far fetched ideas out there. Im not saying that there inst anyone who wants the SW returned to Mexico, there probably are some people out there, but its not going to happen and the US is not in danger of losing its territory. There are alot of voices out there who get the smallest attention.

i understand that some people will get offended seeing a foreign flag flying above our national flag, but to walk up and cut down someone else's property and for that person to get a bunch of kudos is stupid. If someone told me how to run my store or how i can display anything, i would tell them to shove off. this guy should have went to the store and talked to him in person first and assumed that maybe the guy didnt know flag etiquette. things probably would have been settled w/o the uproar.

Blah, blah, blah........

You know why you have those "rights"? It's because the people of this country died fighting for them. Perhaps it's time you respected them.



.....here's some food for thought....

1. If you migrate to this county, you must speak the native language

2. You have to be a professional or an investor. No unskilled workers
allowed.

3. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no
special ballots for elections, all government business will be
conducted
in our language.

4. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they
are here.

5 Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.

6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no
food
stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs.

7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount
equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

8. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT
options will be restricted. You are not allowed waterfront property.
That is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

9. Foreigners may not protest; no demonstrations, no waving a foreign
flag, no political organizing, no badmouthing our president or his
policies, if you do you will be sent home.

10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down
and sent straight to jail.

Harsh, you say? The above laws belong to the immigration laws of
MEXICO!

[c312]

Let's go ask 100 people in the street about flag etiquette. More than 2 will know it, probably a good number more will know it.

I just don't see how someone from Ireland can make a broad generalized assertion about how many Americans would know American regulations. You don't see me asserting what percentage of Irish families ate potatoes last night, because the fact is I can't substantiate that in any way, just as you can't substantiate your statement about a foreign concept in a foreign country. You can't make assertions about cultural knowledge or practices if you haven't spent substantial time in them.

[geRV]

A flags a fucking flag no matter what way you slice it, there are rules that govern flags that are in law but dont get enforced, for example having lettering on flags you have to get a form of pemission to do this..im willing to bet all those flags with football teams names on i see week in week out on tv have none of those permissions.

Fact of the matter is the video was blown totally out of proportion, one old guy gets angsty and everyones jumping on the bandwagon. Would you say its a safe bet to assume cops had driven past that store numerous times and never said diddily shit about the flag..cops you know the people that ENFORCE the law? Nah clearly that idea is waaaay too out there to be feasible.

And it has FUCK all to do with what country you come from, the vast majority of people are very ignornant about laws and what constitutes a law being broken or not. Theres so many technicalities in law its not suprising that most people draw a blank on the subject.

[strvs]

flags are for idiots

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by strvs

flags are for idiots

Then you must have one draped around your neck.

[strvs]

Originally Posted by Arkan

Then you must have one draped around your neck.

oh, i get it

wait

could you explain it just to make sure?

[Madmartagen]

these arguments are precisely what goes on when you have this kind of attention on something as insignificant as this case. did anyone even bother to interview the bar owner and find out what his intent was? all you have are interviews of pissed off people w/o any knowledge of what was going on. This guy is talking about fighting like a man and mexicans taking over america and all he has to base this on is someone calling a radio station and says that a mexican flag is flying higher than the US flag.

and ffs save the 'respect the veterans' remark for the next anti war, canada vs america, bush vs clinton thread. i was in the navy for 4 years and i dont see how this case remotely hints at veterans being disrespected. whether this man meant to insult americans oroubt just preferred to have a mexican flag on top, its his right to decorate his store the way he wants to. just because you dont like what he has on his property, it doesnt give you any justification to tear it down. infringing on someones rights, whether the intent was nationalistic or criminal, is just as much disrespectful to veterans as flying a foreign flag higher than the US flag with the sole purpose of insulting Americans.

I doubt this guy meant to insult anyone, but it got picked up by the media and now everyone has something to say about it.

[c312]

^You're right, he shouldn't have taken the action he did, like I said before he should have talked to the store owner if he was so upset about it.

[Tripper]

I've agreed with everything you've said in this thread, mad.

I dunno what to say arkan, dont you think its more disrespectful to veterans to trash someones property without question in the name of the flag?









awesome show great job

[Tripper]

Originally Posted by c312

Let's go ask 100 people in the street about flag etiquette. More than 2 will know it, probably a good number more will know it.

....and theyre all military/police/scout/ranger whatever.....which means if you dont ever belong to any kind of rank in your life like thousands and thousands of people do then you get fucking publicly abused - and then the abusers get supported by idiots like you people.

i cant believe some of the people on this board sometimes. sometimes i wonder if this whole forum is one big internet joke on me.

[Johnj]

If you were educated in the United States you should have learned flag etiquette in the first grade, right along with The Pledge of Allegiance and the alphabet.

[Arkan]

Originally Posted by Tripper

I dunno what to say arkan, dont you think its more disrespectful to veterans to trash someones property without question in the name of the flag?

Trip, i never defended his actions. To me, what he did is the only thing that can be debated here.....certainly not flag etiquette. It is what it is.

[KTOG]

What's the difference between an american flag and stars and striped themed toilet paper?