France MAY help if. . . - Page 4

Arkan · 03-20-2003, 12:39 PM

Who gives a fuck what you guys think from the safety of your cushy computer chairs! The F****h are pussies, always were pussies, and will always be pussies! They don't need to fire a single shot to support the effort in Iraq....thats all i'm trying to say.

To hell with America and it's war loving people you say? Well, fuck off scumbag, you know nothing of how the majority of Americans feel....especially the ones who barely escaped with their lives on a quiet day in September.

This little campaign, how ever unpopular it is with the liberals of the world, is needed for the safety of the same liberals who live in it. If you can't see that, i don't know what else there is to say. In fact, flame on because i'm done with this thread !!

Innoxx · 03-20-2003, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkan

Who gives a fuck what you guys think from the safety of your cushy computer chairs! The F****h are pussies, always were pussies, and will always be pussies! They don't need to fire a single shot to support the effort in Iraq....thats all i'm trying to say.

To hell with America and it's war loving people you say? Well, fuck off scumbag, you know nothing of how the majority of Americans feel....especially the ones who barely escaped with their lives on a quiet day in September.

This little campaign, how ever unpopular it is with the liberals of the world, is needed for the safety of the same liberals who live in it. If you can't see that, i don't know what else there is to say. In fact, flame on because i'm done with this thread !!

...and Arkan has reached a new low.

Ydiss · 03-20-2003, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkan

To hell with America and it's war loving people you say? Well, fuck off scumbag, you know nothing of how the majority of Americans feel....especially the ones who barely escaped with their lives on a quiet day in September.

No, from the way people like you talk it seems you have to be pro-war to not be a pussy. I didn't say "To hell with America" once.

Yeh, I know nothing of how the majority of Americans feel, especially the ones who barely escaped with their lives on 9/11. Especially the Brits that also escaped with their lives, or the families that lost loved ones that day?

How about the thousands of families over here who have lost loved ones due to IRA terrorist attacks. I know nothing of that as well?

I know a lot about it, which is exactly why I don't believe in war. The Ireland conflicts have all but been resolved now and it was done using diplomacy and patience. We could quite easilly have sent in the SAS and our armed forces and obliterated the IRA at any time but that would be condoning what they did.

September 11th? Horrible day, horrible tragedy.

War in Iraq?

September 11ths will happen every week.

Only, this won't affect you, will it? So who cares...

Don't bother trying to justify war by bringing the old September 11th excuse out. That wasn't even Iraq.

It was a horrible event that affected thousands directly and millions indirectly.

Iraq will be no different, only bigger and much much longer-lasting. And it won't be affecting you.

My, what a brave person you are. Certainly not a pussy, are you?

Might I also point out that you are sat in the safety of your computer chair? Or are you actually on the font-line in Iraq right now with a lap-top?

Just because your nation is waging war on Iraq doesn't make you a bigger or better person, or nation, than anyone else.

pest · 03-20-2003, 01:37 PM

Ha! I thought it was funny which word arkan blanked out. LOL. Sorry, no comment pretaining to the rest of the thread, I havent read it, but that one kind of amused me.

BTW - Just out of curiousity and completely off topic - to all the guys that like to point out how they think the US was late in joining WWII (and only those guys)- Where were you guys to help in the Pacific???? Other than the Aussies, I mean? Oh, that didnt involve you? The bombing of your allies, the slaughter of a million chinese wasnt your concern??? No, of course thats not a double standard.

Arkan · 03-20-2003, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ydiss

No, from the way people like you talk it seems you have to be pro-war to not be a pussy. I didn't say "To hell with America" once.

Yeh, I know nothing of how the majority of Americans feel, especially the ones who barely escaped with their lives on 9/11. Especially the Brits that also escaped with their lives, or the families that lost loved ones that day?

How about the thousands of families over here who have lost loved ones due to IRA terrorist attacks. I know nothing of that as well?

I know a lot about it, which is exactly why I don't believe in war. The Ireland conflicts have all but been resolved now and it was done using diplomacy and patience. We could quite easilly have sent in the SAS and our armed forces and obliterated the IRA at any time but that would be condoning what they did.

September 11th? Horrible day, horrible tragedy.

War in Iraq?

September 11ths will happen every week.

Only, this won't affect you, will it? So who cares...

Don't bother trying to justify war by bringing the old September 11th excuse out. That wasn't even Iraq.

It was a horrible event that affected thousands directly and millions indirectly.

Iraq will be no different, only bigger and much much longer-lasting. And it won't be affecting you.

My, what a brave person you are. Certainly not a pussy, are you?

Might I also point out that you are sat in the safety of your computer chair? Or are you actually on the font-line in Iraq right now with a lap-top?

Just because your nation is waging war on Iraq doesn't make you a bigger or better person, or nation, than anyone else.

I feel compelled to reply to your comments.
Let me start off by asking you this. Do you know why the coalition is waging war in Iraq?
Well, just incase you don't know, i'll state the reason here for you to see.

You see, once upon a time, there was this bad guy called Saddam Hussein. He ruled over a fierce regieme that tortured and gassed it's own people in a land called Iraq. Well, one day, this bad guy Saddam decided that having some nuclear weapons around would be fun. So fun infact, that he thought he could share them with his bad buddies called "terrorists". Now, with his evil friends, bad guy Saddam can spread his evil to all parts of the world while never leaving Iraq. Well, the people of the world found out about all of this and they decided to do something about it. So, 35 nations got together and called themselves a "coalition". This coalition of 35 nations thought they could sweet talk bad guy Saddam out of his ideas but no matter how hard the coalition tried, they were unsuccessful. The only other thing the coalition could do was to play the same game Saddam knows so well so they decided to go into Iraq and remove the evil toys from Saddams control. The coalition thinks this may prevent events like those that happened on that quiet September morning in a busy lil' place called New York. (thats a whole other story that i may share with you at a later date). So, there you have it.....the story of the bad guy Saddam and the good guys (the coalition) and their differences.

Now, what did we learn from this lil' story? Well, i'll tell you what we learned.
1. 35 nations seem to think this is necessary
2. This affects everyone around the globe......even Ireland (nukes in the wrong hands are no joke)
3. "diplomacy and patience" in this case was tried and didn't work.
4. The war in Iraq won't be affecting us directly.....only the people who were tortured and gassed by Saddam.
5. September 11ths WON'T happen every week.
6. .....that i'm not a pussy? Well, i don't think that was in the story.
7. .....i guess everyone has a right to an opinion....unless you're under Saddams thumb.

Ydiss · 03-20-2003, 01:52 PM

I'm fully aware what the reasons are for war.

What has that got to do with my post?

I have not yet said war is not needed. That's not up to me to decide, I'm not paid to make these decisions.

What I said was France have every right not to want to be involved in a war and they are not under any obligation to aid America.

You obviously disagree with that.

Anything else?

Low spark · 03-20-2003, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ydiss

No, from the way people like you talk it seems you have to be pro-war to not be a pussy. I didn't say "To hell with America" once.

Yeh, I know nothing of how the majority of Americans feel, especially the ones who barely escaped with their lives on 9/11. Especially the Brits that also escaped with their lives, or the families that lost loved ones that day?

How about the thousands of families over here who have lost loved ones due to IRA terrorist attacks. I know nothing of that as well?

I know a lot about it, which is exactly why I don't believe in war. The Ireland conflicts have all but been resolved now and it was done using diplomacy and patience. We could quite easilly have sent in the SAS and our armed forces and obliterated the IRA at any time but that would be condoning what they did.

September 11th? Horrible day, horrible tragedy.

War in Iraq?

September 11ths will happen every week.

Only, this won't affect you, will it? So who cares...

Don't bother trying to justify war by bringing the old September 11th excuse out. That wasn't even Iraq.

It was a horrible event that affected thousands directly and millions indirectly.

Iraq will be no different, only bigger and much much longer-lasting. And it won't be affecting you.

My, what a brave person you are. Certainly not a pussy, are you?

Might I also point out that you are sat in the safety of your computer chair? Or are you actually on the font-line in Iraq right now with a lap-top?

Just because your nation is waging war on Iraq doesn't make you a bigger or better person, or nation, than anyone else.

I feel compelled to reply to your comments.
Let me start off by asking you this. Do you know why the coalition is waging war in Iraq?
Well, just incase you don't know, i'll state the reason here for you to see.

You see, once upon a time, there was this bad guy called Saddam Hussein. He ruled over a fierce regieme that tortured and gassed it's own people in a land called Iraq. Well, one day, this bad guy Saddam decided that having some nuclear weapons around would be fun. So fun infact, that he thought he could share them with his bad buddies called "terrorists". Now, with his evil friends, bad guy Saddam can spread his evil to all parts of the world while never leaving Iraq. Well, the people of the world found out about all of this and they decided to do something about it. So, 35 nations got together and called themselves a "coalition". This coalition of 35 nations thought they could sweet talk bad guy Saddam out of his ideas but no matter how hard the coalition tried, they were unsuccessful. The only other thing the coalition could do was to play the same game Saddam knows so well so they decided to go into Iraq and remove the evil toys from Saddams control. The coalition thinks this may prevent events like those that happened on that quiet September morning in a busy lil' place called New York. (thats a whole other story that i may share with you at a later date). So, there you have it.....the story of the bad guy Saddam and the good guys (the coalition) and their differences.

Now, what did we learn from this lil' story? Well, i'll tell you what we learned.
1. 35 nations seem to think this is necessary
2. This affects everyone around the globe......even Ireland (nukes in the wrong hands are no joke)
3. "diplomacy and patience" in this case was tried and didn't work.
4. The war in Iraq won't be affecting us directly.....only the people who were tortured and gassed by Saddam.
5. September 11ths WON'T happen every week.
6. .....that i'm not a pussy? Well, i don't think that was in the story.
7. .....i guess everyone has a right to an opinion....unless you're under Saddams thumb.

Nice story. I love a good fanasy.
1. This is true
2. This is true( except that there are no "right" hands for nukes to be in.
3. This is a lie. Diplomacy was a fallacy from the day Cheney decided to go after Saddam
4 I pray not. But Cheney and Bush in the rush for short term profits for their friend, have handed the anti-Armerican terrorist groups a recuiting tool on a silver platter.
6. I wouldn't know are care.
7. Or outside of Cheney/Bush's inner circle.

Gassing of the Kurds has nothing to do with the current situation. We could care less about the Kurds, The Kurds themselves fear Turkey more than Saddam.

The only thing that Saddam did wrong in was threaten our oil supply by invading Kuwait, then did he became evil in our government's eyes.

Arkan · 03-20-2003, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ydiss

Anything else?

no, i think i covered everything.

pest · 03-20-2003, 02:20 PM

Like it or not, I have to believe that the powers that be, know more about the true situation than we do. I also have to believe that France's motivation is much more driven by financial concerns than humanitarian. The french dont care about the iraqi people any more than they care about the US or cuba for that matter. They do care about money, it makes the world go round, in france as well as elsewhere. I am also thinking that the French are scared about having illegal dealings with iraq being uncovered.

I believe many countries are not publicly supporting the US based on public sentiment at home, but privately offering support because they cannot tell us all of the story.

Just my two cents and mine alone.

Old Reliable · 03-20-2003, 03:15 PM

rush limbaugh pointed out, most of the countries in the coalition are former Soviet satellites. They know oppression when they see it..

Low spark · 03-20-2003, 03:23 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":9a710]rush limbaugh pointed out, most of the countries in the coalition are former Soviet satellites. They know oppression when they see it..[/quote:9a710]

And they also know how to get money out of the US.

Old Reliable · 03-20-2003, 03:24 PM

Poland does not! they are US's strongest ally in this region...hopefully I am going there this summer cool:

Zoner · 03-20-2003, 03:25 PM

Bring back some of them awesome sausages, will ya? biggrin:

Zone

Low spark · 03-20-2003, 03:37 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":a0315]Poland does not! they are US's strongest ally in this region...hopefully I am going there this summer cool:[/quote:a0315]

Just a tip, don't take offence, but if anyone asks say you are from Canada.
I have a couple of freinds that just got back form celebrating their 25th annaversary in Europe two days ago. The went to Britan France Germany Italy Belguim, Demark........

They said they started telling people the were from Canada so they did not have to spend all of their time defending their country, and they dislike Bush more than I do.

Low spark · 03-20-2003, 03:50 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":5fb58]Poland does not! they are US's strongest ally in this region...hopefully I am going there this summer cool:[/quote:5fb58]

Just a tip, don't take offence, but if anyone asks say you are from Canada.
I have a couple of freinds that just got back form celebrating their 25th annaversary in Europe two days ago. The went to Britan France Germany Italy Belguim, Demark........

They said they started telling people the were from Canada so they did not have to spend all of their time defending their country, and they like Bush much more than I do.