[Old Reliable]

[quote="Pvt.Pinhead":24f9a]Thats gay....
Why would anyone want to be gay, or lesbian???? I mean its so stupid, there no point in it. Its unnatural which make gays unnatural. I mean whats the motive?????

If the world starts accepting same-sex people its going to eventually be thought of as no different the have different sex marrages and eventually it will become so comon that no one cares and ppl will start to think it is natural, when it isnt, its just sick!!!! All of this will cause a loss of population.

Marrage is not about love, like ppl think, I mean it kinda is for the 2 that are getting married, but I dont give a shit who anyone here marries just as long as theyre capable of making children so the human species lives on. All gays will do is threaten the survival of human kind and can ptentially in the long run be a danger, a risk.


Gays and Lesbians should NOT be allowed, it is sick and unnatural.


And several STD's have been formed by gay sex....so those gay guys are considered murders to me because all these dang STD'd running around kill millions of ppl. And for every STD that is formed just adds up on the number of humans that die.[/quote:24f9a]


Do you see a statistic showing that married couples spread STD's more than un-married couples? No. You helped prove my point. If gays are allowed to be married, they will be given more responsibilities.

As for threatening the human race? I think wars and overpopulation do that more than allowing gay marriages....

By they way you failed to answer my question on marriage, try again

[Old Reliable]

[quote="SW-14":61ca8][quote=Madmartagen]

Originally Posted by "SW-14":61ca8

Heh, try telling that to a married couple. I can assure you it's more than just a piece of paper to all married couples I know.

Thats right. Now tell me why it isn't as important for a gay couple as it is for a straight couple.[/quote:61ca8]

Of course it's important to them, but that is not the issue. A "gay marriage" would be in total contrast to what marriage is.[/quote:61ca8]

Spill the beans, what is marriage then?

[Eames]

dude old reliable your only so liberal in your views because you live in michigan, i bet thers not hardly any faggets or other minorities for that matter where you live so you don't have to deal with them, its quite diferent for those of us who have to live with this shit crammed down our throats by people who think there being "morale".

[SW-14]

[quote=Madmartagen][quote="SW-14":6daa1]

Originally Posted by Madmartagen

Thats right. Now tell me why it isn't as important for a gay couple as it is for a straight couple.

Of course it's important to them, but that is not the issue. A "gay marriage" would be in total contrast to what marriage is.[/quote:6daa1]

It appears to be in contrast to what you think marriage is. To me, marriage is a bond between two people who love eachother. To you, marriage is a bond between a man and woman who love eachother. So I guess you could say we have a technicality issue.[/quote:6daa1]

Perhaps, but every dictionary I can find defines it as "The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife." Not to mention the whole "thousands of years" tradition thing we've got going.

[Old Reliable]

it doesn't matter about the thousand years thing, US has only been a country for just over 200. that's what a legislature is for too, to possibly make amendments and pass bills to make change in the country. if we don't progress through the changing times, they will force us to. it's only a matter of time...... oh and by the way i live on a college campus where you get a wide variety of weird people

[Madmartagen]

[quote="Cpl. Eames":65970]dude old reliable your only so liberal in your views because you live in michigan, i bet thers not hardly any faggets or other minorities for that matter where you live so you don't have to deal with them, its quite diferent for those of us who have to live with this shit crammed down our throats by people who think there being "morale".[/quote:65970]

Why the fuck do you even post in this thread, you dont offer any real opinions or any form of intelligent thinking. All you do is call someone a faggot or a liberal and just talk out of your ass to hear yourself talk. What shit do you have to have crammed down your throat? No one is telling you that you have to do anything, so there is nothing to deal with. If this were 1962, you would be saying the same thing about African Americans, and how its immoral to let them eat at a counter, or sit on a bus. Shut the fuck up already and get some education.

[Snuff]

First of all, I'll say that I'm against it. Everyone's morales are different so
it's not worth debating here. There is one aspect that no one here has brought up. This may not apply to Canada or other countries but it sure as hell would affect the US financially. Certain rights come with that "piece of paper" as Old called it. Take for instance the small business owner that has
to provide insurance for his employees. His insurance policy covers wokers and their families. If gay marriage is legally recognized, he is also burdened with covering the partener in a gay relationship. That may not sound like much , but you do it a million times over and it begins to show up economically. You could anticipate hospital charges increasing and being passed on to the patients due to the extra coverage costs of these parteners. What about the high incidence of aids in the gay community. Those extra costs will be passed on as well. Those are just a few examples of how wide spread legalization of gay marriages could impact us economically rolleyes:

[Eames]

[quote=Madmartagen]

Originally Posted by "Cpl. Eames":cd9ab

dude old reliable your only so liberal in your views because you live in michigan, i bet thers not hardly any faggets or other minorities for that matter where you live so you don't have to deal with them, its quite diferent for those of us who have to live with this shit crammed down our throats by people who think there being "morale".

Why the fuck do you even post in this thread, you dont offer any real opinions or any form of intelligent thinking. All you do is call someone a faggot or a liberal and just talk out of your ass to hear yourself talk. What shit do you have to have crammed down your throat? No one is telling you that you have to do anything, so there is nothing to deal with. If this were 1962, you would be saying the same thing about African Americans, and how its immoral to let them eat at a counter, or sit on a bus. Shut the fuck up already and get some education.[/quote:cd9ab]

because i dont believe in the same "multi cultural" love everybody bs that you do that means i have no education? Typical liberal elitist attitude hake: as for this not being something shoved down our throats, if the majority of people in the nation are against gay marriages, why should they be leagal? To clear the consense of a few liberal elitist? Stuff like this should be decided by the VOTERS not some fucking liberal judge in fucking massachusettes.

just to piss all the religious people off,
here's a short list of all the trouble religion has caused in the past couple millenia:

countless wars based on religious grounds,
spanish inquisition,
witch hunts,
constant resistance to scientific advance,
keeps people ignorant and intolerant

therefore religion is against my morals

[Old Reliable]

It is decided by the voters moron.......you elect the judges, and then the judges pass the decision

[Eames]

[quote="Old Reliable":0209d]It is decided by the voters moron.......you elect the judges, and then the judges pass the decision[/quote:0209d]

No one votes for federal judges you fucking dipshit, they are apointed. And even if they were "elected" one person should not have the power to decide on this, and make his decision the one for the whole nation, it should be left up to the states to decide whether or not to ban gay marriages or not, if they want to let faggets get married in massachusettes...fine, there marriage would only be recognized in massachussets, not anywhere else.

[Judas]

[quote="Old Reliable":15d20]oh, first of all, we must define marriage[/quote:15d20]

wtf kind of shit it that?


The legal union of a "man and woman" as husband and wife.
The state of being married; wedlock.
A common-law marriage.
A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage.

[Judas]

[quote="Old Reliable":c3bbf]So, you're all for being against gays and lesbians adopting kids while you are for hetero couples overpopulating the world in 8% growth in asia? Overpopulation is more of a concern than gays offending you annoy:[/quote:c3bbf]

LOL! Hetero or not ... Wont it still be overpopulated if same sex marriages are legal ?

[Madmartagen]

Who the hell says the majority of Americans are against gay marriages? I think the rate is about 50/50, so there isnt a majority there. How can you compromise a 50/50 vote? In this case you can't, but you can be fair. Let each state decide its own course of action. I bet in the next 25 years, each and every state will have gay marriages. If it doesnt affect you, then why else would you be so passionately against it? Its because youre a dick head.

[Old Reliable]

[quote="Cpl. Eames":69aba][quote="Old Reliable":69aba]It is decided by the voters moron.......you elect the judges, and then the judges pass the decision[/quote:69aba]

No one votes for federal judges you fucking dipshit, they are apointed. And even if they were "elected" one person should not have the power to decide on this, and make his decision the one for the whole nation, it should be left up to the states to decide whether or not to ban gay marriages or not, if they want to let faggets get married in massachusettes...fine, there marriage would only be recognized in massachussets, not anywhere else.[/quote:69aba]

so what should we call your new form of political ideals, national socialism?