Question for u car guys - Page 4

Scalping Chief · 08-16-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KTOG

Pretty expensive hobby with high depreciation. Go collect stamps or pez.

Pogs are a real mans hobby

KTOG · 08-16-2005, 12:59 PM

Very ironic. We were just talking about them in IRC last night.

Pyro · 08-16-2005, 01:09 PM

Grade 4 and 5 Pogs were the shit.

anti · 08-16-2005, 02:22 PM

Alf's back! And he's in pog form!

Tripper · 08-16-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by anti

Alf's back! And he's in pog form!

thrillhouse

Short Hand · 08-16-2005, 03:22 PM

[quote="Simo Häyhä":9c0ef][quote="Short Hand":9c0ef][quote="Simo Häyhä":9c0ef][quote="Sergeant_Scrotum":9c0ef]so what performance upgrades have you done so far?[/quote:9c0ef]
clear corners 5hp
stickers 76 hp
chrome rims 10 hp + better handling
lambo doors 900 hp

you're a fucking tool godsmack. nobody makes body kits for racing shit ass, they dont improve you're aerodynamics. go back to yout 2 fast 2 furious bullshit[/quote:9c0ef]

Simo, cut him some slack, there is nothing wrong with a few conservative exterior mods like clear corners, rims...... Ya sticker gallore & lambo doors are a bit much but that is personal taste.

myself I plan on adding a conservative kit to my car in good time, but befroe that I have a large performance list upgrades that need to be done, clutch, bolt ons, NX or Zex Nitrous kit...RSM or a jtuners.com supercharger/turbo...... major suspension mods.... etc etc.[/quote:9c0ef]
fuck that hes a ricer he can die the_finger:
PS- alot of people talk down about Zex. Personally ive used both Zex and Nitrous express and am very happy with my NX kit[/quote:9c0ef]

Zex calls itself the "smart nitrous kit" only becasue it comes with everything you need...and it can go with your stock injectors fairly well/fuel pressure, but really it is not the safest.. I have seen it melt jbody owners plugs right out due to improper fuel management and the like, it is simply smart because it comes with everything you need to bolt it right in. I like you prefer NX from personal experience of being in cars outfitted with it.

Here is a first hand experience

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(Yes, I know it's "nitrous" and "NOS" is a company...the title was just to get your attention )

I read a "blew my motor" thread recently by red96sunfire. First I'd like to say I'm sorry to hear about that and good luck on your rebuild. Second, I'd like to point out something that I don't think has gotten adequate coverage here, and just might save someone a melted piston.

Zex is often referred to as "smart nitrous" or "newbies nitrous" because it's got the vacuum connection to use the stock fuel regulator to increase fuel flow while spraying. That makes the installation very easy and quite a bit safer than a standard dry kit. The assumption that's being made there is that your fuel pressure is high enough to support spraying in the first place. red96sunfire installed nitrous on his car at 144K miles and the damage to his motor doesn't sound like any kind of age-related mechanical failure. It sounds more like he leaned out on #3 and melted his spark plug (and probably more). I'd bet that lean-out was because of low fuel pressure.

I'll offer my car as an example. It's a 97 Saturn SC2 which should have 44lbs of static fuel pressure (vacuum line disconnected from the regulator). Disconnecting the hose allows the maximum rated pressure through the regulator and that's how it should be tested. At around 50K miles, I was noticing some performance degradation so I tested the system's pressure. It was only 34 psi!! This would cause operating problems with the motor under normal conditions, and would definitely not be able to support spraying even a small shot of nitrous. My car, fortunately, has an adjustable regulator stock so I was able to adjust things back in line. J's don't have that luxury.

What makes the pressure get low like that? The most common thing is just simple wear. The regulators used on these cars are a spring loaded diaphragm and, over time, that spring can lose it's tension. It could be from a loss of efficiency in the fuel pump so that even if the regulator is working normally the pump can't keep up. It could be a severlely clogged fuel filter preventing the pump from getting enough fuel to the rail.

Whatever it is, if you don't have enough fuel and you spray your engine will end up like red96sunfire's.

The moral of the story is IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPRAY, CHECK YOUR FUEL PRESSURE FIRST!! I don't have a J service manual handy, but you can find out in there what the pressure should be. Then buy or borrow a pressure gauge and check it out on your car. If it's lower than it should be DON'T SPRAY. Fix the problem first and make sure everything is ok before you put your engine through that kind of stress.

Any questions, let me know.

JimmyZ
J-Body Chat Administrator
GME Radio & JBO Live! Host/Producer[/quote:9c0ef]

& here is a great Q & A for anyone wanting to get into NItrous.

[url="http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=39&i=9545&t=9545"]http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f ... 545&t=9545[/url]

Simo you should sign up and post there, saturns = same engines as Cavaliers rock: beer:

duncey · 08-16-2005, 03:25 PM

I'm all for body kits and stuff... But, fuck, dude, that's fucking ugly.

I like trucks better then sports cars or w/e you want to call them. A nice beefy truck with a lift kit and 36" tires will do me well anyday.

Short Hand · 08-16-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by duncey

I'm all for body kits and stuff... But, fuck, dude, that's fucking ugly.

I like trucks better then sports cars or w/e you want to call them. A nice beefy truck with a lift kit and 36" tires will do me well anyday.

GL gas prices are going to record highs.