[quote="Sgt>Stackem":cb5af]looks like fun, lets do it!! Pyro can drive the car!![/quote:cb5af]

with duffy sitting in the passenger seat!

[Machette]

I don't hate rednecks. I just think guns are irresponsible all together, I wish they were never created and I wished they were banned...what have they brought for us as human beings in this reckless society? Fun you say, I laugh at you when you say that because guns not only bring some people fun for a small minority but it brings wars, huge death rates which are part of the majority of the fraction (In Toronto alone 70 or more people died from gang related crimes using guns this summer and its consantly in the newspapers) This is only my opinion of course and I don't mean to stir rhetoric even though thats what will happen because I know on this fourm their are a good amount of gun owners who see themselves as responsible...but a huge majority arn't.

[tomxtr]

Originally Posted by Machette

I don't hate rednecks. I just think guns are irresponsible all together, I wish they were never created and I wished they were banned...what have they brought for us as human beings in this reckless society? Fun you say, I laugh at you when you say that because guns not only bring some people fun for a small minority but it brings wars, huge death rates which are part of the majority of the fraction (In Toronto alone 70 or more people died from gang related crimes using guns this summer and its consantly in the newspapers) This is only my opinion of course and I don't mean to stir rhetoric even though thats what will happen because I know on this fourm their are a good amount of gun owners who see themselves as responsible...but a huge majority arn't.

I wouldn't encourage my kids to shoot guns, but to each his own. There are a lot of places in this country at least, where guns are a necessity. In parts of the west, people in remote areas have to deal with coyotes and wolves and shit. I'd have a gun if I lived out there.

[Himmler]

[quote="Sgt>Stackem":df5ac]looks like fun, lets do it!! Pyro can drive the car!![/quote:df5ac]

Originally Posted by Machette

I don't hate rednecks. I just think guns are irresponsible all together, I wish they were never created and I wished they were banned...what have they brought for us as human beings in this reckless society? Fun you say, I laugh at you when you say that because guns not only bring some people fun for a small minority but it brings wars, huge death rates which are part of the majority of the fraction (In Toronto alone 70 or more people died from gang related crimes using guns this summer and its consantly in the newspapers) This is only my opinion of course and I don't mean to stir rhetoric even though thats what will happen because I know on this fourm their are a good amount of gun owners who see themselves as responsible...but a huge majority arn't.

yes, there were no wars before guns were invented. absolutley none!

[Colonel]

Originally Posted by Machette

.....but a huge majority arn't.

The statistics prove this to be an incorrect statement.

[Machette]

Originally Posted by Acideyez

yes, there were no wars before guns were invented. absolutley none!

They brought war to its epic state which it stands now, killing more on a grand scale. I'll take an example of a Newfoundland regiment in WW1 which had 1,000 men they were forced over the top 200 came back in 15 minutes, no war killed so many in so little time. And colonel I'm interested out of curiosity to see the statistic.

[Colonel]

Macette - I don't even have to look it up - all you have to do is look logically at your statement. You said that the "majority" of gun owners do not handle them responsibly. For that to be true then gun accidents would have to number in the millions, since there are millions of gun owners. However, accidental gun deaths are rather uncommon compared to the total number of owners.

I have referenced statistical web sites before in these forums. I'm just too lazy to go looking right now. If memory serves me right there were less accidental gun deaths in the US than the number of kids dying of poisoning from cleaners in the cabinet under mom's sink. Less than lightning strikes. Less than job related accidental deaths .... the point being that most gun owners are safety conscious.

If you want to look at it another way - 70 people killed in Toronto. Are there more than 139 gun owners in Toronto? That's the number you need for 70 bad guys to make up the "majority".

[Machette]

Originally Posted by Colonel

Macette - I don't even have to look it up - all you have to do is look logically at your statement. You said that the "majority" of gun owners do not handle them responsibly. For that to be true then gun accidents would have to number in the millions, since there are millions of gun owners. However, accidental gun deaths are rather uncommon compared to the total number of owners.

I have referenced statistical web sites before in these forums. I'm just too lazy to go looking right now. If memory serves me right there were less accidental gun deaths in the US than the number of kids dying of poisoning from cleaners in the cabinet under mom's sink. Less than lightning strikes. Less than job related accidental deaths .... the point being that most gun owners are safety conscious.

If you want to look at it another way - 70 people killed in Toronto. Are there more than 139 gun owners in Toronto? That's the number you need for 70 bad guys to make up the "majority".

I'm saying the illegal amount of gun owners...thats what I'm getting at. I know their are 4 million registered gun owners in Canada. I don't want to tick any gun owners off like I said before but its irrational to think such a thought. Its obvious that accidental gun deaths are low because you are registered users, its the illegal market of guns I'm getting at...the stuff the gangs use. I don't see a point in guns, for protection? well if they weren't invented we wouldn't have a logic in which our first reaction is to pick up the gun and shoot somebody. Society has taken a bad turn with all these guns, I have never shot a gun before so I can't comprehend with the argument thats its fun to shoot at targets and such. Just clearly state why you think guns exist, other than for protection because if its for protection get a alarm or pepper spray, something that won't kill a person.

[geRV]

oOo:


laugh at the vid and fuck off the rest of ya.

[Machette]

This is a important debate, that has relevance to the so called funny video.

[geRV]

Whys it any time guns are mentioned the anti gun troop comes out in force? plzdie: oOo:

[Machette]

Originally Posted by geRV

Whys it any time guns are mentioned the anti gun troop comes out in force? plzdie: oOo:

Because it is important to have a voice...and some people don't see things as other people do...its apart of human nature.. oOo: imwithstupid:

[geRV]

Originally Posted by Machette

Because it is important to have a voice...and some people don't see things as other people do...its apart of human nature.. oOo: imwithstupid:

And a debate on a forum with maybe 50-70 users is gonna do what exactly? The words "sweet fuck all" come to mind.

Some of you really need to get into politics. oOo:

[Machette]

ah fack off biggrin: