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01-15-2006, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by elstatec
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Why are you leaving the UN out, they are also playing a role in this. Numerous big european countries have become involved
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yes but the UN didnt invade Iraq did it? sleeping:
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wtf does that have to do with anything? We are talking about Iran, not Iraq.
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01-15-2006, 11:48 PM
going to bed, to be continued.
BTW wtf are you doing up stat its like fucking 5:30 in the morning in the UK, dont you have something better to do than argue diplomacy.
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01-16-2006, 12:02 AM
[quote:6d150]Sadaam Hussein Attempted to invade and control another country and was beaten back. He then was killing his own people who he determined "non superior"
Last guy that did that was named Hitler when he decided to invade and control several countries, bomb the living shit out of the UK, and exterminated millions of Jews(which I guess you believe is also a myth now, seeing your new found support for Iranian govt.)
None of the Pussy UN countries were crying then when we were bailing there ass out then.
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Comparing Iraq to the second world war effort againt Nazi Germany shows just how fucking dumb you are.
And the particular point of contention in the over throw of the Iranian Government was the nationisation of the Oil Companies, and dont think the US had no hand in this and just did it as a favour as after they threw over the government the BP Oil company lost alot of its monopoly on the oil to guess who? 5 major US oil companies, that then operated in Iran so dont try to make it sound so fucking innocent the US had more to gain from over throwing them hence they are the ones that did it.
Im up at nearly 6am because suffer from insomnia and i cannot stop playing mario sunshine.
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01-16-2006, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by c312
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Originally Posted by elstatec
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Why are you leaving the UN out, they are also playing a role in this. Numerous big european countries have become involved
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yes but the UN didnt invade Iraq did it? sleeping:
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wtf does that have to do with anything? We are talking about Iran, not Iraq.
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why do you fucking think Iraq was invaded? For WMDs that didnt exist remember? And the situation in Iran is for what? Irans WMDs in the form of nuclear weapons that dont exist.
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01-16-2006, 01:35 AM
Iraq invaded for other reasons as well, reasons that prominent libs acknowledged before the war started, so don't think go around yelling that George Bush is a liar, it's not valid as far as I am concerned.
I'm done arguing this issue, we'll see what happens soon and who gets involved, maybe if the French get involved then you will be satisfied, you'll have all the pussies finally trying to do something.
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01-16-2006, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by c312
Iraq invaded for other reasons as well, reasons that prominent libs acknowledged before the war started, so don't think go around yelling that George Bush is a liar, it's not valid as far as I am concerned.
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prominent libs are not good enough, Bush himself and other major people in government clearly laid out they were going there for WMDs, then when none were found oh well they went there to free the Iraqi people, spare me the bullshit and excuses.
And pussies because they actually try to resolve things legally through the UN rather than getting impatient and invading a country for the wrong reason then fucking it up? Please sleeping:
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01-16-2006, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by elstatec
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Originally Posted by c312
Iraq invaded for other reasons as well, reasons that prominent libs acknowledged before the war started, so don't think go around yelling that George Bush is a liar, it's not valid as far as I am concerned.
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prominent libs are not good enough, Bush himself and other major people in government clearly laid out they were going there for WMDs, then when none were found oh well they went there to free the Iraqi people, spare me the bullshit and excuses.
And pussies because they actually try to resolve things legally through the UN rather than getting impatient and invading a country for the wrong reason then fucking it up? Please sleeping:
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freeing the iraq people was on the list of reasons before we went in.
no, pussies because they try to be so idealistic like a disney movie that they refuse to acknowledge anything needs to be done.
If things are legal through the UN, why aren't you bitching about how the UN is going to get involved over Iran? I don't understand how you use the UN as a standard on Iraq but not on Iran now.
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01-16-2006, 12:00 PM
How is it "fucking dumb" to compare hitler to sadaam. They have the same beliefs and actions(experimintation/tourture/murder of humans, though Sadaams on a smaller level) The only difference is that Sadaam didn't do us a favor like Hitler and kill himself, we had to go back 10 years later and finish the job that should have been completed by Bush senior. Yes the WMD issue is rediculous, but we already had reason to finish what was started.
I'm sure that if Hitler had survived we would have let him just go back to ruling Germany.
Iran already makes more than enough energy to sustain its country as it is. there is no need for nuclear energy.
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01-16-2006, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by c312
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Originally Posted by elstatec
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Originally Posted by c312
Iraq invaded for other reasons as well, reasons that prominent libs acknowledged before the war started, so don't think go around yelling that George Bush is a liar, it's not valid as far as I am concerned.
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prominent libs are not good enough, Bush himself and other major people in government clearly laid out they were going there for WMDs, then when none were found oh well they went there to free the Iraqi people, spare me the bullshit and excuses.
And pussies because they actually try to resolve things legally through the UN rather than getting impatient and invading a country for the wrong reason then fucking it up? Please sleeping:
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freeing the iraq people was on the list of reasons before we went in.
no, pussies because they try to be so idealistic like a disney movie that they refuse to acknowledge anything needs to be done.
If things are legal through the UN, why aren't you bitching about how the UN is going to get involved over Iran? I don't understand how you use the UN as a standard on Iraq but not on Iran now.
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I do believe the UN is the right way to go if they believe they have a problem, but there isnt, it is the Countries like US, UK, Russia, Germany whining to the UN where whatever happens will happen, but I dont believe they should as Sanctions will do nothing but harm the Iran population and make Oil prices go up, when Iran hasnt done anything wrong in the first place. And if the UN was used properly before Bush side stepped it maybe they might of found out there were no fucking WMDs in the first place, meaning no war, meaning no lies, meaning no loss of life.
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Iran already makes more than enough energy to sustain its country as it is. there is no need for nuclear energy.
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stfu you have no proof of this, and like many other countries Iran has a right to go after energy that doesnt involve fossil fuels.
And the whole hitler-saddam thing i wont even argue about as it is just so astronomically stupid that i cannot take you serious.
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01-16-2006, 12:29 PM
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Iran hasnt done anything wrong in the first place.
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eek: ed: stupid:
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01-16-2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Iran hasnt done anything wrong in the first place.
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eek: ed: stupid:
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Saying something is a bit different then doing something, you know like saying you are invading Iraq for WMDs then, oh no actually saying you invaded for regime change sleeping:
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01-16-2006, 12:59 PM
Hitler is the pioneer of modern electioneering techniques.
Gotta love a guy who did it legally...hell the constitution in the end was the loophole that led to his dictatorship.
Though I don't see how Saddam should be thorally compared to Hitler as I get shit everytime I compare people to Hitler.
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01-16-2006, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Iran hasnt done anything wrong in the first place.
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eek: ed: stupid:
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Saying something is a bit different then doing something, you know like saying you are invading Iraq for WMDs then, oh no actually saying you invaded for regime change sleeping:
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Yeah, ok. Whe a country says, "I'm gonna bomb the hell out of you until your existance is over."...doesn't that ring off a bell that something may not be right. And they HAVE done numerous things...such as disregarding the UN in the first place.
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01-16-2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Originally Posted by elstatec
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Originally Posted by Coleman
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Iran hasnt done anything wrong in the first place.
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eek: ed: stupid:
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Saying something is a bit different then doing something, you know like saying you are invading Iraq for WMDs then, oh no actually saying you invaded for regime change sleeping:
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Yeah, ok. Whe a country says, "I'm gonna bomb the hell out of you until your existance is over."...doesn't that ring off a bell that something may not be right. And they HAVE done numerous things...such as disregarding the UN in the first place.
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Gotta love when people put some much faith in the UN yet don't care when people ignore it. ie: Iraq, Iran, etc.
And once again, WMDs was not the only reason we wanted to invade Iraq, other reasons were given BEFORE we invaded!
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01-16-2006, 01:30 PM
Iran bans CNN, I love it. happy:
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