[wintersforge]

Originally Posted by Eames

they are going to cost 700 plus dollars. are they worth it? hell yes, the kimber m1911a1 is the best ever made except for maybe the originals designed and built by john browning.

that being said, if 800 bucks is out of your price range...the springfield m1911a1 is very good, its not a kimber no....but its still good and you can get them for around 450-500 bucks.

new and used from 400-900 is the range these are in...i want a kimber doll

[Simo Häyhä]

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[Eames]

Originally Posted by wintersforge

new and used from 400-900 is the range these are in...i want a kimber doll

well of course a used model is going to be cheaper. i don't like buying used weapons, but thats just me. if you look around you can most definitly find a good value on a kimber.

[SoLiDUS]

Originally Posted by Milla

HK's are over priced too though lol.


Im still going with a P2000, but a Kimber Warrior would be leet

Overpriced? Any gun used by Jack Bauer is perfect in my book.

[Simo Häyhä]

Originally Posted by geRV

Americans who think the king of england is gonna come over and shit in their cornflakes. biggrin:

LOL



Peoples arguments seem to me, based mostly on emotion rather than fact or research. If their position is so consistent, please tell me the reasons for banning the .50 BMG. Then please explain if these reasons do or do not also apply to the .338 Lapua Magnum. Furthermore, please explain if there are any caliber of weapon you would not ban, and why
Believe it or not there are still some Americans who believe in the integrity of the 2nd amendment. Fact is .50 caliber rifles are not used in crimes, since they are too large for normal criminal behavior. They are among the most expensive rifles out there, confining their purchase to dedicated marksmen and collects.
I find it interesting that most people overlook the .50 cal as a major sporting rifle.Most people who own .50 caliber rifles are long-range target shooting experts. For more than a century, long-range target shooting competitions have attracted marksmen, and modern .50 caliber rifles are among the most accurate for long-range shooting.
Also Mk211 military ammunition is strictly controlled by the US armed forces and not available to the general public.
I can probably predict that you're going to use ".50 cals can be used by terrorists to shoot down airplanes" argument. Fact is the average Barret holds up t0 7 rounds. My cousin just happens to be an airline CAPT. for a major airline in the U.S. He also is a proud owner of a .50cal (12.7mm for you eurotypes). He has flow the entire inventory of his company's aircraft. He states that in order to bring down a 747-400 model, their would have to be multiple weapons fire by that caliber using ALOT of ammunition, and they would have to be aimed and hit all four turbofans to make the ship drop. One or two will simply not do it. This is why it has yet to be attempted by a terrorist organization. The real threat he and others of his profession worry about are A.) A shoulder fired AGM, and B.) A small general aviation aircraft used as a ramming craft. Even Dr. John Lott has pointed out that using a single shot or semi-auto weapon against an aircraft is nearly useless. He states "when firing small arms at aircraft was in vogue, machine guns were considered marginally effective, with cannon or larger weapons being preferred. Single shots from single weapons were not considered useful."
Oh and California has recently banned the .50 cal BMG from their state (big surprise there). Yet you can still buy a .50 cal black powder rifle there. rolleyes:
Just my 2 cents, i know you'll both flame me for this calmdown:

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/NRO50CaliberCBS.html read this article to find out more if you dare so please

[Crazy Canadian]

i want an ak47, not to shoot, just because they are awesome

[Tripper]

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Discuss.

[Sgt>Stackem]

I have shot a Barrett .50 cal. It is an awesome gun. You can drive tacks at 400 yards.




Please take this one peice of advise

BUY THESE
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I have irreversable hearing damage because I didnt buy these soon enough. When I was 18 I bought a Ruger Redhawk .44 MAG and didnt buy hearing protection. I made a HUGE mistake. Please learn from my mistake

[Milla]

I fired a Browning .50 cal machine gun, and that thing was amazing, hitting targets at 2 miles was insane.

Literally rocks your body cavity. But if you think a .50 cal is bad, try a 25mm lol that thing is insane.

[eeves]

My babe..
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[Simo Häyhä]

Originally Posted by yves

My babe..
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lies

[Milla]

Originally Posted by SoLiDUS

Overpriced? Any gun used by Jack Bauer is perfect in my book.

Well a USP Compact is more expensive than a P2000, yet the P2000 is a more updated version of the USP Compact, and can accept tac lights.

[img]http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/p2000-left-full.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/p2000-right-full.jpg[/img]
Has an adjustable rear pistol grip for comfort.


[img]http://www.hkdefense.us/pages/civilian/civimages/usp45compact.jpg[/img]

You can see the similarities.

[Arkan]

You really can't put a price on self protection. The Kimber .45 will serve well protecting you. As for me, i opted for the Sig .40 for my carry gun. One of these days, i'll get a .45

[Short Hand]

Carrying a gun... wtf.... ed: . I have never felt the need to carry one in my life, and I know it would get me into more trouble then it could get me out of...

BUT maybe Canada is just a much more friendly place....

[Xorcist [USA]]

The reason I carry my HK .45 to work everyday. All this shit goes down less than a mile from my route to work. Fucking gangbangers.

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