[strvs]

Yea, intelligent conversation is totally gay.

[geRV]

Originally Posted by strvs

Yea, intelligent conversation is totally gay.

rolleyes:

Bullshit debates started out of something posted for a laugh are.

[strvs]

Originally Posted by geRV

rolleyes:

Bullshit debates started out of something posted for a laugh are.

Just ignore the damn thread then. You've been here long enough you should have seen it coming.

[geRV]

Originally Posted by strvs

Just ignore the damn thread then. You've been here long enough you should have seen it coming.

Yeah ill ignore my own thread, oOo:



imwithstupid:

[strvs]

Originally Posted by geRV

Yeah ill ignore my own thread

beer:

[Milla]

Want me to delete the BS gerv?

EDIT: i forgot you were a mod...delete your own shit!!!! happy:

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OMGOOSE YOU KILLED MY BROTHER YOU HAX0R!!!

[wintersforge]

meh...when you all have the "balls" to pollute the gene pool you can make your own decision. As far as a child being raised in an environment where guns are....its all up to the parents. if they raise the child with the healthy respect that goes along with owning a firearm then go for it...treat every gun as loaded and dont ever let me see that finger on the trigger...open the action etc etc etc.

ive 2 daughters...the eldest seems to be a tom boy. she is likely to ask whats up with Dada leaving for a week at the end of Nov. and coming home with racks. I can only teach her WHAT I VIEW AS PROPER and in accordance with the laws of the land...the rest is up to her. Most have heard the tale of the 8-10 yr old girl shooting a bear in Md.

I wouldnt alloow my daughter to operate a firearm in a controlled environment until she can demonstrate responsibility and clean her fucking room to start....but is she persists (and im not the kind of dad that will want her to do everything I did...she will have all the opportunities I can afford her and thats that) I will teahc her the way of the ranger and woods etc etc etc...now roll that d20 and make a save versus logic

[geRV]

Originally Posted by wintersforge

I will teahc her the way of the ranger

Don't you mean lean strafing shotgun whore? biggrin:

[Colonel]

Originally Posted by Machette

.... well if they weren't invented we wouldn't have a logic in which our first reaction is to pick up the gun and shoot somebody. ...

Machette, have you ever heard the saying, "God created men and Sam Colt made them equal"? Saying that if all guns were abolished then there would be no need for them does not take into account that men are generally bigger and stronger than women, that some men are bigger and stronger than others, etc. I've related several times in this forum how having a gun saved my dad's life. I don't need to go into that again other than to say that a twenty something year old drug crazed nut job can kill a 70-something year old coot without the use of a gun.

And again, even if you look at guns owned illegally, saying the "huge majority" are used irresponsibly doesn't hold up, unless you think there are only 139 illiegal gun owners in Toronto. The fact is that many folks that are against gun ownership have never been around them. That's why I think gun ownership will die a slow death. Fewer and fewer people (it seems to me) hunt, or shoot recreationally, or are exposed to guns in anyway other than what thy see on the news or in movies. So, since they don't really understand guns, they fear them.

I grew up hunting with my dad. All of our shotguns hung in our hallway in a gun rack. This rack was the old timey kind that was just hooks and a shelf for ammo. It was not locked in any way. I walked by those guns every day of my life as I went back and forth to my room. It never dawned on my to touch them unless I was going hunting. They held no mystery for me. I think what happens in alot of gun accidents is that you have a kid that is curious about his dad's gun. I was never "curious" because I got to use them all the time. I had seen the damage they can do and I had been taught all about safely handling them.

That's why I think this little girl in the film is being taught a valuable lesson. I would say that her chances of growing up to be a "gang" member are far less than the kid whose parents are scared to have him exposed to gun ownership.

As for your question as to why guns exist ... guns exist to propel bullets, and shot, at a high velocity toward a target. Bullets and shot exist for personal protection, food gathering, recreational target shooting, protection from government oppression, and to basically punch holes in anything that gets in their way.

[Machette]

I respect your arguments, but I still remain objective. Gathering from your post people like myself can empathize with how people use guns and appreciate them.

[Milla]

Originally Posted by geRV

Don't you mean lean strafing shotgun whore? biggrin:

lmao biggrin:

[elstatec]

Im with machette on this.

Guns have more bad things about them then good.

[Pyro]

Are guns being put on a pedastal or something? Would life be better if guns were never invented...? I don't think one rational soul would believe that it wouldn't be. Anyways...gun owners are fine and dandy...but why kids? To me it's the same as teaching them how to pick pocket and pick locks.

[Colonel]

Originally Posted by elstatec

Im with machette on this.

Guns have more bad things about them then good.

I'm curious what you base that statement on. For instance, studies show that guns are used to stop crime far more (and I'm talking "times" as in mulitpluication - times as an individual instance) than they are used to commit crime. So if an item stops bad things from happening more than it helps bad things happen, how can it have more bad things about it than good? Just curious what you are referring to.