[Stinger_Dude]

[quote="Cpl. Eames":4339e][quote=Pyro]

Originally Posted by "Cpl. Eames":4339e

I can't believe they actually believe that shit when they are clearly inferior to the west in every aspect, only the protest of the weak and the cowardly here in the west keep us from decimating them, their culture, and their region. History has shown what the west is capable of doing if we put our minds to it....we conquered the world once, and damnit we can do it again.

Hwo are they as human beings inferior to americans? Hitler in the making man, that's exactly what that sounded like.[/quote:4339e]

i dont know why they are inferior....hmm maybe because there culture is shit, there countries are shit, they are less developed, and lack the princibles and values which make western european culture the dominant and most sucessful in the world. Why should we allow ourselves to be intimidated by lesser countries? Why shouldnt we strike out and destroy them ruthlessley and meticulisly so they can never threaten us again...we have the ability to create a great pax-americana if we destroyed our enemies, but not by shitty "regime change" bull shit, but through conquest and repression....peace is brought about by conquest, expansion, and subjecation of enemies, look to history...[/quote:4339e]

Before you say their culture is shit the Muslims already were far ahead in the arts, science, medicine. They had a system of public baths, schools and hospitals. That was in the middle ages. See where Europe was in that time. Peasants and lords both living on piles of shit and stones.

[Madmartagen]

yeah but that was almost a thousand years ago when they were more tolerant, peaceful and open minded. Now they are just as racist as racists anywhere else. They contribute nothing to society other than natural fuel. What happens when the world will be less dependend on natural fuel? The entire region will slump into a large economic depression and breeding ground for more extreme fundamentalism. We have been putting up with extreme/militant Islam for quite some time now and there does not seem to be any way to make peace. We can try all we want, but much of Noctis said is true. Peace isnt created by negotiating, its made by crushing your enemies so that they cannot fight you anymore.

[Old Reliable]

you can't just hate people without trying to understand where they come from. so americans are killing people around the world. why can't they be angry? what do you want them to do, sit back and let it happen? you can't put these guys out with fire, it's publicity, and it won't die until the last man. this war is psychological if it is to be won. your attitude of hating muslims doesn't help either.

oh yeah and what noctis said...seems to be working well in israel eh!!!!!!!!!!

[Madmartagen]

[quote="Old Reliable":91f5c]you can't just hate people without trying to understand where they come from. so americans are killing people around the world. why can't they be angry? what do you want them to do, sit back and let it happen? you can't put these guys out with fire, it's publicity, and it won't die until the last man. this war is psychological if it is to be won. your attitude of hating muslims doesn't help either.[/quote:91f5c]

I dont hate muslims and I understand their anger as well. But the fact is, the US could do anything, ANYTHING to relieve the tension going on in the middle east but it still wont solve this problem. There are too many old timers in power that keep their hatreds alive. Yasser Arafat, the Ayatollah, the leader of Lebanon; all of these dudes have been in power since the cold war and prosper under the current climates. They arent going to seek peace with the west because then they will be useless. How can there be peace in the middle east with Israel alive? As long as they are there, it wont happen because militant islam will always have an excuse to start their shit. Im not saying we should go in guns blazing to kill every mother fucker off, but to me, it looks like it would make the world a better place.

[Old Reliable]

israel makes up 1/10th of 1% of territory in the middle east. it is however one of the most important territories. just a fact tidbit

[Madmartagen]

[quote="Old Reliable":7e105]israel makes up 1/10th of 1% of territory in the middle east. it is however one of the most important territories. just a fact tidbit[/quote:7e105]

Thats true. If its so small, then how come muslims are making such a big deal out of it then? why cant they let it go? Israel is there to stay and we arent going to let other powers come in and butcher them. They are surrounded by enemies and we decided to help them. Why cant they just share the religious sites? The problem with all the suicide bombings and terrorists lies soley on the feet of muslims. They are so fucking stupid. yeah they were poor, yeah they were oppressed. But they have 2 great examples of how to overcome their oppression in a single generation: Ghandi and Martin Luther King Jr. They were under the same circumstances and were able to overcome because they were non violent. Another interesting tidbit is how muslims almost completely ruined the works of these two men. When Ghandi secured the independence of India, it was the muslim faction who wanted to split away and create Pakistan, leading to mass genocide when they forced millions of hindus to rellocate hundreds of miles away from muslim held territories. All of Martin Luther Kings were allmost ruined because of Malcom X. King brought the civil rights movement to a successful climax and it was wrecked with malcom X and his stupid black panthers. What would it be like if black power hadnt replaced black pride? you prolly wouldnt have the stereotypical image of violent african american young men lurking in the shadows. I dont hate muslims, I just have no sympathy for them when they start throwing rocks and sending their children to blow up others in buses.

[Pyro]

Israel is just as much at fault, maybe even more so.