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Default 06-29-2004, 02:12 AM

So you are signing up for service after graduation, right?
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 02:17 AM

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So you are signing up for service after graduation, right?
No, Im goin to a Military Academy hopefully if not then ROTC at Texas A&M to become an officer, or at least a rank that pays more then a pvt.
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 03:03 AM

holy shit 9 pages in like so short of time. I missed all the fun . But Summer partying comes first (sucks i was the designated driver tonight.
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 03:45 AM

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So you are signing up for service after graduation, right?
No, Im goin to a Military Academy hopefully if not then ROTC at Texas A&M to become an officer, or at least a rank that pays more then a pvt.[/quote:27cf5]
So you are joining to better your life, not serve. Look, its easy to tell everyone that they have a duty to do and should go fight when you are going to go to a school that will put you in charge of a group of people that have already earned its experience in boot camp. If you arent willing to enlist yourself, dont start telling others that theyre cowards for not wanting to be drafted.
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 09:05 AM

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Honostly a draft wouldnt be bad because it would probably clean up the youth of america. Than again it could destory it by all the "rebel" teens out there.
Yep, that's what's wrong about today's youth. Too many of us think that it's "Cool" to be different by speaking out against things. Shut your pie-hole and go fuck yourselves. That's my response to them.[/quote:a8785]

so you just do whatever some morons upstairs tell you without question?

what if a new president in the near future told you to round up the mexicans and gas them?
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 09:42 AM

im afraid the us is digging itself deeper and deeper into its own grave as we continutally destroy countries we cannot afford to support.

next on the list is korea part 2, then iran, then who knows?

and the more we invade these countries, the more we look like the bad guys. we are going to look like an insane country in a frenzy to fight terrorism in the proven wrong manner.

in this war, you cannot fight fire with fire, it takes a great leap of faith, but people need to realize that the flames of terrorism must be extinguished and not met with perfectly calculated brutality. our attacks only spawn more hate.




then again, what it comes down to is: the us, canada, britain and most of europe, israel, japan, australia, etc. are the "have's" and the people middle east and parts of afrika and asia are the "have-not's," so there will always be jealousy and hatred toward us on thier part.

and our attempts to aid these people come up short as the more we try to help, the more they hate us in that we are able to help them.

i wish we could just leave these countries to duke it out on thier own: we pull out all economic ties, and perhaps they can get along fine in thier own culture. maybe then they would realize some of the west's good intentions.
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 10:00 AM

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im afraid the us is digging itself deeper and deeper into its own grave as we continutally destroy countries we cannot afford to support.

next on the list is korea part 2, then iran, then who knows?

and the more we invade these countries, the more we look like the bad guys. we are going to look like an insane country in a frenzy to fight terrorism in the proven wrong manner.

in this war, you cannot fight fire with fire, it takes a great leap of faith, but people need to realize that the flames of terrorism must be extinguished and not met with perfectly calculated brutality. our attacks only spawn more hate.




then again, what it comes down to is: the us, canada, britain and most of europe, israel, japan, australia, etc. are the "have's" and the people middle east and parts of afrika and asia are the "have-not's," so there will always be jealousy and hatred toward us on thier part.

and our attempts to aid these people come up short as the more we try to help, the more they hate us in that we are able to help them.

i wish we could just leave these countries to duke it out on thier own: we pull out all economic ties, and perhaps they can get along fine in thier own culture. maybe then they would realize some of the west's good intentions.
Everything you said.....really made no sense. Go do some underwater research or something.


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Default 06-29-2004, 11:37 AM

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im afraid the us is digging itself deeper and deeper into its own grave as we continutally destroy countries we cannot afford to support.

next on the list is korea part 2, then iran, then who knows?

and the more we invade these countries, the more we look like the bad guys. we are going to look like an insane country in a frenzy to fight terrorism in the proven wrong manner.

in this war, you cannot fight fire with fire, it takes a great leap of faith, but people need to realize that the flames of terrorism must be extinguished and not met with perfectly calculated brutality. our attacks only spawn more hate.




then again, what it comes down to is: the us, canada, britain and most of europe, israel, japan, australia, etc. are the "have's" and the people middle east and parts of afrika and asia are the "have-not's," so there will always be jealousy and hatred toward us on thier part.

and our attempts to aid these people come up short as the more we try to help, the more they hate us in that we are able to help them.

i wish we could just leave these countries to duke it out on thier own: we pull out all economic ties, and perhaps they can get along fine in thier own culture. maybe then they would realize some of the west's good intentions.
Everything you said.....really made no sense. Go do some underwater research or something.

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Default Re: The Draft...if it comes back... - 06-29-2004, 11:42 AM

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Isn't the conservative philosophy essentially founded on self-determination and individual rights? How can you thereby justify giving the government the power to deprive you of your rights by forcing you into military duty?

HINT: it's only for americans. you don't have to worry about it pyro.
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 12:00 PM

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Nobody said they would be unwilling to protect their country, only that they would be unwilling to be forced into it. Personally, I would definitely join up if my country was under threat of invasion and it was TRULY for the sake of defense. But personally, I have no interest in laying down my life just to remove some petty tyrant on a far off shore. If the cause is just, the people will fight for it of their own free will, and you can't ask people to lay down their lives if they aren't convinced that their lives are really being valued.
Alright, I didnt read this whole thread, I got up to page 5 and then I got bored, can you blame me? Anyway, guys I think you should stop jumping down pyros throat. He tried to start a nice, intelligent, and mature thread with you guys and a lot( not all) of you guys are screwing it up. Pyro, I believe that you are right. Nobody should be able to put a price on anybodys life. If and when the cause is just, and the stability and safety of the country in which you live in are at stake, people will willingly commit themselves to the millitary in an effort to save their country, from tyranny and oppression. Alright, I may have gotten a bit dramatic at the end but you guys should be able to get where Im going.
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 12:14 PM

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Nobody said they would be unwilling to protect their country, only that they would be unwilling to be forced into it. Personally, I would definitely join up if my country was under threat of invasion and it was TRULY for the sake of defense. But personally, I have no interest in laying down my life just to remove some petty tyrant on a far off shore. If the cause is just, the people will fight for it of their own free will, and you can't ask people to lay down their lives if they aren't convinced that their lives are really being valued.
Alright, I didnt read this whole thread, I got up to page 5 and then I got bored, can you blame me? Anyway, guys I think you should stop jumping down pyros throat. He tried to start a nice, intelligent, and mature thread with you guys and a lot( not all) of you guys are screwing it up. Pyro, I believe that you are right. Nobody should be able to put a price on anybodys life. If and when the cause is just, and the stability and safety of the country in which you live in are at stake, people will willingly commit themselves to the millitary in an effort to save their country, from tyranny and oppression. Alright, I may have gotten a bit dramatic at the end but you guys should be able to get where Im going.
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Default 06-29-2004, 03:39 PM

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So you are signing up for service after graduation, right?
No, Im goin to a Military Academy hopefully if not then ROTC at Texas A&M to become an officer, or at least a rank that pays more then a pvt.[/quote:e5a95]


Green to Gold is for pussies. Enlist, go through the ranks.
  
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Default 06-29-2004, 03:53 PM

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Default 06-29-2004, 04:04 PM

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I need to get some sleep. I'll see what goes on here sometime in the morning again.

Good night to all.
......lets hope he never wakes up!!
I don't think is needed. Why give a shit if someone is beheaded if no one would give a shit if it was you? You people tell me some things are wrong to joke about, this would be the same.


  
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Anyways, thinks to anyone who tried to make this a worthwhile thread.


  
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