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geRV 11-21-2002 08:07 PM

aa.com server question
 
Anyone wanna tell me why it has the uber oOo: [img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/gaytard.gif[/img] [img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/lame.gif[/img] [img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/gay-smilie.gif[/img]lean while running gayness enabled even though its now a spearhead server.

/removes aa.com server from his list. [img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/cussing.gif[/img]

Best part is it seems to be running in realism mode, now lets see, oh yes you should be perfectly capable of leaning over to the side whilst running along full pelt and firing a machinegun... Kinda defeats the purpose of realism mode does it not? eek:

Judas 11-21-2002 08:15 PM

You will not be missed eek: Just playing !

I can barely play without it !!! Have you tried to nudge up against a corner and look around ? If you miss, you end up jumping up and down trying to position yourself at the edge, or hanging out over the edge. And no , i dont lean strafe bind , but find it easier to aim while leaning in one direction or the other. Probably because i have learned to aim around corners so well ...

geRV 11-21-2002 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas
You will not be missed eek: Just playing !

I can barely play without it !!! Have you tried to nudge up against a corner and look around ? If you miss, you end up jumping up and down trying to position yourself at the edge, or hanging out over the edge. And no , i dont lean strafe bind , but find it easier to aim while leaning in one direction or the other. Probably because i have learned to aim around corners so well ...

For someone thats learned to lean round corners so well how come you supposodly have so much trouble doing it without leanstrafe? I honestly don't know how you find it hard without it on. Go to edge of wall, press lean button. How much more simple can it be?

Old Reliable 11-21-2002 08:18 PM

example 1: get up and walk around the house wobbling from left to right with your torso like the run and lean feature in the game. report back how you felt

11-21-2002 08:23 PM

i heard there was actually a person playing on the aa.com server earlier but i'm not sure if i believe it

Judas 11-21-2002 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Go to edge of wall, press lean button. How much more simple can it be?

sleep:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
For someone thats learned to lean round corners so well how come you supposodly have so much trouble doing it without leanstrafe?

sleep:

11-21-2002 11:12 PM

Cant stand it.

I wont be playing on it again till its remedied.

KTOG 11-21-2002 11:40 PM

[quote="Old Reliable":3eedd]example 1: get up and walk around the house wobbling from left to right with your torso like the run and lean feature in the game. report back how you felt[/quote:3eedd]

Ok, i'll also shoot live ammo at my friends too!!!!!!!!

Who cares, if you can't over come a simple obstacle as killing a person with lean/strafe than this game is too challenging for you. Point click dead.

geRV 11-22-2002 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Judas
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Go to edge of wall, press lean button. How much more simple can it be?

sleep:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
For someone thats learned to lean round corners so well how come you supposodly have so much trouble doing it without leanstrafe?

sleep:

Yes judas nice explanation of how "hard" playing a game without leanstrafing is. In other words you know im right and can't argue the point. Pretty pathetic when a discussion about a gay little feature turns into smiley wars because judas obviously can't back up his side of the argument.

[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Captain_McCusker 11-22-2002 10:49 AM

#1, Gerard, if it's such a big deal to you that ppl not be allowed to lean while moving, then stfu and just stop playing there... by flaming Judas or Rude (who you're actually trying to piss off with this thread) you're only showing what a complete idiot you are in the first place. I only have one thing to say in that regard: start paying for your own server @ $79+/month so you can customize it how YOU see fit... and then see if anyone wants to play on it... You may get some... but they won't be the aa.comers (the old skool gang) which have a class all their own.

Another thing you have to figure out is that not only are they paying for this server, but they're also busting their arses to come up with the best map lists, etc., for the regulars... If you don't like one feature then go to hell. They didn't ask you to come along to begin with. And don't plan on hanging out on AAN anytime soon with that attitude, either... the second you open your mouth about anything on that server you'll find your ass hung out to dry with us faster than you can say "If I could just keep my big ass mouth shut..."

Oh, and have you thought about the fact that it's just a frickin' game? When you play poker, do you not play by the dealer's rules? Or do you tell everyone to stop because you need the ace you have in your sleeve? Play by the rules of the man who's in charge, stfu and like it! Or stop wasting our time... simple as that..

let the flames begin

geRV 11-22-2002 12:13 PM

[quote="Captain_McCusker":ef233]#1, Gerard, if it's such a big deal to you that ppl not be allowed to lean while moving, then stfu and just stop playing there... by flaming Judas or Rude (who you're actually trying to piss off with this thread) you're only showing what a complete idiot you are in the first place. I only have one thing to say in that regard: start paying for your own server @ $79+/month so you can customize it how YOU see fit... and then see if anyone wants to play on it... You may get some... but they won't be the aa.comers (the old skool gang) which have a class all their own.

Another thing you have to figure out is that not only are they paying for this server, but they're also busting their arses to come up with the best map lists, etc., for the regulars... If you don't like one feature then go to hell. They didn't ask you to come along to begin with. And don't plan on hanging out on AAN anytime soon with that attitude, either... the second you open your mouth about anything on that server you'll find your ass hung out to dry with us faster than you can say "If I could just keep my big ass mouth shut..."

Oh, and have you thought about the fact that it's just a frickin' game? When you play poker, do you not play by the dealer's rules? Or do you tell everyone to stop because you need the ace you have in your sleeve? Play by the rules of the man who's in charge, stfu and like it! Or stop wasting our time... simple as that..

let the flames begin[/quote:ef233]


[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/lol.gif[/img] Yeah ill stop posting here cause some noob who's been here a whole FIVE months says so. Please crawl back under the stone you came from son.[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/lol_hitting.gif[/img]

As for trying to piss people off i love how you see it that way. I ask a legit question in response to judas post and he can't answer it, instead he post's 2 smileys and thinks "well i got outta that one".

What was so insulting about the question? The fact that when he says he can't lean round corners properly without having run\strafe enabled? Is it so hard to go to the edge of a corner and press the lean button? Even a 5 year old could probably do it time and again.

In my initial question im not flaming anyone. It seems prettty redundant to me to have a server running in *REALISM MODE*(you can grasp the REALISM concept can't you??) and then to enable a completly unrealistic feature.

I really love how you're getting all steamed up about this, this thread has FUCK all to do with your whining little ass but you feel the need to come in and moan like a moose who's being anally raped by a dinosaur.

And as for your little "don't come near our server" horsehit, OH NO THERES ONLY A COUPLE THOUSAND ALLIEDASSAULT SERVERS AND IM NOT WELCOME ON ONE!!!!!111 TEH HORROR.

Yeah im sure that'll really affect me not being welcome on a couple of servers, i only have about 1500 others to choose from so i guess im stuck for choices. [img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

To be perfectly honest i don;t give a fuck what you or anyone else on this site thinks of me. I don't blindly agree with something because the majority agree to it like sheep, If i see something wrong i'll come out and fucking say it.

As for wasting "our time" you had fuck all to do with this thread in the first place so kindly take your comments and fuck off elsewhere.

[img]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gerald.marley/Smilies/poke.gif[/img]

Hans-AlbinVonReitzenstein 11-22-2002 12:19 PM

Look below

11-22-2002 12:29 PM

Lol -

I've gone to the AAN or whatever mistakenly thinking it was the AA.COM server - looks VERY similar in server name...that can't have been just a simple coincedence.

In any case, I agree with Gerard in that this server -which so far has strived for a "realistic" tone - has gone the way of the dinosaur and kept lean-strafe on. It IS difficult to shoot someone in the head while they are hoping around back and forth. It is NOT realistic, it add's nothing to the server except to give those skilled with it an advantage over others not so.

And it is HARDLY that much of a hardship to readjust yourself after leaning around a wall. At the very least fast run is off, but here's hoping a poll is started and we can take that crap off once and for all.

And if I'm not mistaken, RUDE is the ONLY one paying for the majority of that server (if not ALL of it).

Bazooka_Joe 11-22-2002 12:37 PM

Can you not run and lean at the same time in real life?

geRV 11-22-2002 12:41 PM

[quote="ST_Bazooka_Joe":f778c]Can you not run and lean at the same time in real life?[/quote:f778c]

Yeah but not very well. Better question can you run and lean in real life firing an stg 44 while maintaining perfect accuracey? eek:

Bazooka_Joe 11-22-2002 12:42 PM

Wah. Listen man, it's in the game, it's in the game. If it wasn't in the game, people would bitch "Man, these guys run like sticks, you can only jump to try to dodge bullets". So just drop it. Be happy there's a fucking game to play in the first place.

geRV 11-22-2002 12:46 PM

[quote="ST_Bazooka_Joe":fb24c]Wah. Listen man, it's in the game, it's in the game. If it wasn't in the game, people would bitch "Man, these guys run like sticks, you can only jump to try to dodge bullets". So just drop it. Be happy there's a fucking game to play in the first place.[/quote:fb24c]

Its in the game yes BUT it was removed by ea due to complaints. Its only possible to enable by editing a tik file so its not something that people really want to see enabled. As for bullet dodging well if leaning left and right is to "dodge bullets" id say this game has more in common with the matrix.

Bazooka_Joe 11-22-2002 12:48 PM

I dodge bullets by stopping and running, strifing, but never jumping or leaning. I don't use the leaning, but I have no issue with people using it. I think it's dumb as hell, and it's funnier to kill someone using it, but I don't feel that it should be stripped from the game.

Coleman 11-22-2002 06:20 PM

Wow, i haven't seen too many of you guys in servers lately. Where do you all play normally? Most of the time, i see the regulars in the AAN server and never aa.com. Do any of you hang out mostly in the spearhead server?? Just wondering since i don't seem to see you all anymore.

Thermopyle 11-22-2002 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Better question can you run and lean in real life firing an stg 44 while maintaining perfect accuracey? eek:

Umm... can you do the perfect aim thing without leaning. Sheesh. hake:

And since when is MOH:AA real life? Go join the French Foreign Legion if you want real combat, brainiac. MOH:AA is an arcade style game, whether or not you like to admit it. It was built using a tweaked Quake 3 engine! Of course there are going to be unrealistic elements to it.

Go play another game if you dont like the unrealistic elements of MOH:AA.

Coleman 11-22-2002 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Thermopyle
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Better question can you run and lean in real life firing an stg 44 while maintaining perfect accuracey? eek:

Umm... can you do the perfect aim thing without leaning. Sheesh. hake:

And since when is MOH:AA real life? Go join the French Foreign Legion if you want real combat, brainiac. MOH:AA is an arcade style game, whether or not you like to admit it. It was built using a tweaked Quake 3 engine! Of course there are going to be unrealistic elements to it.

Go play another game if you dont like the unrealistic elements of MOH:AA.

FINALLY, someone agrees that MOHAA is an ARCADE game. If someone gets soooo picky about stuff like leaning, well just go play some America's Army. That's realistic-- your scope shakes from your breathing(don't know how more realistic you can get). Plus, you go for training....so don't complain about MOHAA if there are other games out there that were made specifically for a REALISTIC gameplay.

Data 11-22-2002 08:54 PM

Does the aa.com sever have the same name it had a month ago on spearhead? I will not be able to buy spearhead for about another week.

11-22-2002 09:14 PM

buy? data data data...*cough* pm me *cough*

geRV 11-22-2002 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thermopyle
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard
Better question can you run and lean in real life firing an stg 44 while maintaining perfect accuracey? eek:

Umm... can you do the perfect aim thing without leaning. Sheesh. hake:

And since when is MOH:AA real life? Go join the French Foreign Legion if you want real combat, brainiac. MOH:AA is an arcade style game, whether or not you like to admit it. It was built using a tweaked Quake 3 engine! Of course there are going to be unrealistic elements to it.

Go play another game if you dont like the unrealistic elements of MOH:AA.


Everyones quite aware it was built on the quake 3 engine. Spearheads multiplayer was supposodly made with the main goal of eliminating things people didn;t like. At the top of that list was the leanstrafe around the map lameness. The realistic mode in spearhead works ok, it gives the game a sort of day of defeat feel.

Im not all about realism and i don't play americas army, what myself and others have wanted though is an upto date game styled like day of defeat and the spearhead addon in realism mode almost gets mohaa up to this level.

For the noob members around here a little info for you all. When allied assault was being made around last june all of us on the forum wanted the multuiplayer mode to rival day of defeats modes. The game didn't turn out like that. Dod has since gotten more popular and ea obviously have noticed this and included a similar mode in spearhead.


The realism mode in spearhead imo has the right amount of balance and fun combined. I don't however see this lean strafe crap as being either fun or balance, its nothing but a retarded looking annoyance. If it was top of ea's list of thing's to be left out of multiplayer then obviously more than just me gets pissed off about it.

It ruins what can be a fun experiance by (A) looking completly fucking stupid, and (B) can give lamers an advantage who are used to waddling maps like some kind of duck, no-one can deny the fact that the sight of someone walking and firing and constantly bouncing left and right is very offputting.

For those of us that want a more dod like game it just smacks of the original allied assault multiplayer modes. Id rather move onwards than have people crying about not being able to waddle like a duck in order to get every little advantage they can over people.

People complain about me complaining about this lean strafe shit. But at the same time the people whining back at me are the same people who use the lame tactics with this lean strafe shit. Try to play the game without NEEDING to have an advantage over other players, lean strafing is lame it was taken out of multiplayer for that reason and now we hear people find it "impossible" to play without it.

Thermopyle 11-22-2002 10:35 PM

Ok, fair enough. But if you want MOH to be more like DoD, then why not say that in the first place, instead of resorting to the real life argument?

I dont like DoD, so I dont want MOH to replace it. And trust me, I can live without the lean/strafe tactic. I use it when its available, just to keep on a level playing field with the others (kinda like when I switch from rifle to MG, and mow down the MG whores because they think they are owning that guy with the bolt action).

But I dont need lean/strafe either. Its just a tactical change for each type of game play that comes at you. And I have made this same point in other threads about any issue that arises concerning gameplay and the supposed exploitation of advantages: adjust your tactics to the situation. Real life: they do that in combat.

Bottom line: if you get fragged its due to one of two reasons: 1) you made a mistake or 2) your opponent made a better play.

And even though you repeatedly say people wanted lean/strafe eliminated (as if everyone in the MOH community did), obviously you are wrong. After all, people arent accidentally allowing lean/strafe on their servers; they have to intentionally allow it, as you so clearly stated by saying they have to edit a .tik file.

Obviously some people wanted it changed (and you are one of them). But that doesnt mean everyone wanted it changed.

eatthis:

Coleman 11-22-2002 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thermopyle
Ok, fair enough. But if you want MOH to be more like DoD, then why not say that in the first place, instead of resorting to the real life argument?

I dont like DoD, so I dont want MOH to replace it. And trust me, I can live without the lean/strafe tactic. I use it when its available, just to keep on a level playing field with the others (kinda like when I switch from rifle to MG, and mow down the MG whores because they think they are owning that guy with the bolt action).

But I dont need lean/strafe either. Its just a tactical change for each type of game play that comes at you. And I have made this same point in other threads about any issue that arises concerning gameplay and the supposed exploitation of advantages: adjust your tactics to the situation. Real life: they do that in combat.

Bottom line: if you get fragged its due to one of two reasons: 1) you made a mistake or 2) your opponent made a better play.

And even though you repeatedly say people wanted lean/strafe eliminated (as if everyone in the MOH community did), obviously you are wrong. After all, people arent accidentally allowing lean/strafe on their servers; they have to intentionally allow it, as you so clearly stated by saying they have to edit a .tik file.

Obviously some people wanted it changed (and you are one of them). But that doesnt mean everyone wanted it changed.

eatthis:

amen

rudedog 11-23-2002 08:38 AM

The reason it's not been full, is it's not being broadcasted on GS even with the ui_dedicated set to 1.

There having problems restarting the server from my control panel and i have a trouble ticket into them.

Sgt. Tsunami 11-23-2002 11:09 AM

I'm now having probs connecting. I go to connect via IP, and it says it's using an older version 1.11. Is it offline or something?

rudedog 11-23-2002 11:27 AM

I restarted it the old fashion way and it rebooted as MOHAA not SH. I have a ticket into tech support.


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