WHEN WILL A KNOWLEDGEABLE PROGRAMMER/MODDER SURFACE?!?!?
 

WHAT the fuck is up with these ww2 fps? Someone somewhere has got the idea that the mp40 and stg44 were sucessful weapons (and, omfg, superior to all others!!!!) beyond 5 yards or so ALL automatic fire is WAAAYYYYY to accurate. Even more so for the Axis weapons. These bonehead programmers seem to think a 9mm and 7.62mm assault have knockdown and penetration equal to or better (!?!) than a .45 acp or .30/06.. The best axis weapons produced were by far the Mauser 98's and the FG series paratroop weapons (which couldnt be mass produced at inception and saw little action? German superiority in fire arms existed solely in extreme close quarters (by virtue of every soldier issued a sidearm and sheer quantity of smgs available) and the MG34 (much like the thompson, too much a work of craftsmanship to be mass produced cheaply) MG42 (marginally superior to the Browning in all around performance and easier portability) WHEN WILL WE SEE A REAL REALISM MOD MADE BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING????[/code]

ummmm....dude you are CRAZY! If you wanan get this acctual realism mod done why don't you do it? You seem to know a lot about hte weapons and such.

Cause i dont know shit about programming or computers. I wish I could find a modder whos intersested in corresponing and feedback for a realistic mod.

DUDE, its a game and if its too realistic, like your talking, it takes away from the gameplay eek: eek:

Re: WHEN WILL A KNOWLEDGEABLE PROGRAMMER/MODDER SURFACE?!?!?
 

[quote="Gen. Disarray":ba688]WHAT the fuck is up with these ww2 fps? Someone somewhere has got the idea that the mp40 and stg44 were sucessful weapons (and, omfg, superior to all others!!!!) beyond 5 yards or so ALL automatic fire is WAAAYYYYY to accurate. Even more so for the Axis weapons. These bonehead programmers seem to think a 9mm and 7.62mm assault have knockdown and penetration equal to or better (!?!) than a .45 acp or .30/06.. The best axis weapons produced were by far the Mauser 98's and the FG series paratroop weapons (which couldnt be mass produced at inception and saw little action? German superiority in fire arms existed solely in extreme close quarters (by virtue of every soldier issued a sidearm and sheer quantity of smgs available) and the MG34 (much like the thompson, too much a work of craftsmanship to be mass produced cheaply) MG42 (marginally superior to the Browning in all around performance and easier portability) WHEN WILL WE SEE A REAL REALISM MOD MADE BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING????[/code][/quote:ba688]


Calm down, dude. It's a game. It's not meant to immitate real life verbatim. Just have fun. biggrin:

Re: WHEN WILL A KNOWLEDGEABLE PROGRAMMER/MODDER SURFACE?!?!?
 

[quote="Gen. Disarray":75186]WHAT the fuck is up with these ww2 fps? Someone somewhere has got the idea that the mp40 and stg44 were sucessful weapons (and, omfg, superior to all others!!!!) beyond 5 yards or so ALL automatic fire is WAAAYYYYY to accurate. Even more so for the Axis weapons. These bonehead programmers seem to think a 9mm and 7.62mm assault have knockdown and penetration equal to or better (!?!) than a .45 acp or .30/06.. The best axis weapons produced were by far the Mauser 98's and the FG series paratroop weapons (which couldnt be mass produced at inception and saw little action? German superiority in fire arms existed solely in extreme close quarters (by virtue of every soldier issued a sidearm and sheer quantity of smgs available) and the MG34 (much like the thompson, too much a work of craftsmanship to be mass produced cheaply) MG42 (marginally superior to the Browning in all around performance and easier portability) WHEN WILL WE SEE A REAL REALISM MOD MADE BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING????[/code][/quote:75186]

AND FOR CHRIST SAKE, WHEN I SHOOT THE FUCKING NAZI WHY DOSNT HE SCREAM IN PAIN AND AGONY AND WHY DOSNT HE COUGH UP BLOOD? WHY DOES HE JUST FALL DOWN?!!! WHY CANT I GO UP TO HIS DYING BODY AND SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD AND WATCH HIM BRAINS FALL OUT ALL OVER THE GROUND??!! YOUR SO RIGHT, THIS GAME SUCKS!!! [/sarcasm]


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Man,
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so, what you're saying is the german weapons should take 10+ hits to kill someone, and the allies 1?

well, it would certainly reduce stg whoring.

Welllll.....I did get over excited there. Like I said I can appreciate the need for balance and gameplay certainly. BUT! I guess it drives me nuts with these wackos pushin "realism"mods, might as well call em "make it really good for my favorite (and or my misguided perception of a good) firearm mod. I dont see why it wouldnt be fun to make the game realistically rifle oriented, with the sprayers having an advantage at 10 minus yards or so. AND WHERE THE FUCK DID I SAY THE AXIS WEAPONS SHOULD TAKE 10 SHOTS TO THE ALLIES 1??? I GUARANTEE I SHOOT U WITH A GARAND OR A MAUSER IN THE GUT YOU WONT KNOW OR CARE. YOU HIDIN BEHIND A SOLID CORE DOOR ? STG 44 YOU MIGHT STAND A CHANCE, BAR YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE BEHIND TISSUE PAPER, THAT IS UNLESS I WAS SHOULDER FIRING THE BAR, OR WELL JUST USIN THE STG, CAUSE THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE IS WHERE THE FUCKERS POINTIN. (AFTER THE FIRST ROUND THAT IS) WEAKEST-MP40/P38 MIDDLE STG44 MOST POWERFUL, THE RIFLE ROUNDS AND BAR ARE A TOSSUP. Any one of them will kill ya deader n' shit.

What they need (and im sure this wont appeal to the masses) is weapon jams, that would expose the auto fire. Not as well as having accuracy even in the ball park but good none the less. If the all the weapons (cept the kar and spring) had a jam variable, the game could be balanced, and the modders could really show the STG and MP40 for what they were ...Paperweights on a good day. (Yes its possible for a non-autoloader to jam, but due to ammo deformation or failure of the breech mechanism, virtually unheard of)

But if for the SMG, if the bullets spray then wouldnt it just be like a automatic shotgun with a clip? I think they need to adjust the clip amout but that would make it unrealistic too

here's a thought

mohaa is arcade. if you want realism go play dod.

Green eggs and pot.......sometimes someone says something and dumbfounds me......I just have to sit back open mouthed and savor the insanity......dod autofire is also far too accurate by the way

OKOK I can think of something to say. HOW can u POSSIBLY bring magazine (not technically a clip by the way) size into a discussion on how to make something realistic, thats not subjective. AND WHAT WERE U SMOKIN THAT BROUGHT A MAGAZINE FED SEMI-AUTO SHOTGUN INTO THE DISCUSSION??? And finally an absolute no to your idea an smg would bear no practical resemblence in its power, range, pattern while sprayin away to a shotgun also sprayin away.

[quote="Gen. Disarray":9b445] AND WHERE THE FUCK DID I SAY THE AXIS WEAPONS SHOULD TAKE 10 SHOTS TO THE ALLIES 1??? I GUARANTEE I SHOOT U WITH A GARAND OR A MAUSER IN THE GUT YOU WONT KNOW OR CARE. YOU HIDIN BEHIND A SOLID CORE DOOR ? STG 44 YOU MIGHT STAND A CHANCE, BAR YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE BEHIND TISSUE PAPER, THAT IS UNLESS I WAS SHOULDER FIRING THE BAR, OR WELL JUST USIN THE STG, CAUSE THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE IS WHERE THE FUCKERS POINTIN. (AFTER THE FIRST ROUND THAT IS) WEAKEST-MP40/P38 MIDDLE STG44 MOST POWERFUL, THE RIFLE ROUNDS AND BAR ARE A TOSSUP. [/quote:9b445]

My friend, there is a button between the "Tab" and "Shift" key of the left hand side of the keyboard, it says "Caps Lock" on it, USE IT!!!!!

And next time you post, make sure the little light on the keyboard, the one that says something like "Caps" or "Caps Lock" under it, is off!!

And please stop complaining about realism in MOH, It's A Game! If you don't like it, get your mommy and daddy to drive you out to the computer store and buy you a diffrent game.

Im not complainin about realism in moh, im complainin bout the idiots who tout "realism" mods, which are even less realistic. This started with a general comment the I personally would enjoy seeing something put together by someone who was knowledgeable. Im old enough to be your daddy probably so my mammy and pappy havent bought my toys in a good long time. Dont get touchy, its not my fault ur life is the way it is. I know this is ur only opportunity to be a man without gettin your face caved in so Ill just feel sorry for u.

Its called a game. Who gives a shit if the bullet dosen't spread out more past 5 yards. You want realism? How bout I come to your home with an MP40 and take shots at you from 30 yards. That way when you are on your death bed, you will finally know what true realism is like.

MP powell, Im sorry about your disability so I wont enter into a discourse with you. But remember people want to be kind to the handicapped, youre just making it hard on yourself by being such an smg whore/homer/shill fuckface idiot. Read my post and get on the short bus you cum dumpster.

Thats funny. You look like more of an immature punk than I do a "shill" fuckface. evil:

If you want realism, get off your ass and join the damn army. Get shot down in Iraq? That would be realistic wouldn't it? Or are you French?

"Or are u French?"....LMFAO
You know the worlds gone upside down when the Best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the leaders of the free world are named BUSH DICK and COLIN, When France calls us Arogant and Germany doesnt want to go to War.

Gen. Disarray = one crazy mofo

You want realism?

How bout we send you back to WW2 and let you find out what realism is all about your stupid fuck. Now shutup!

You got a time machine? Nice! Can I borrow it for a while? I promise I'll have it back before i even use it ok?

this guy makes sense but unfortunately this game has restrictions and it is rather difficult to add more.

I'd enjoy pure realism, but everything has limitations. He was probably done getting killed in a server, and just came on here venting his frustration..and this is like four months old. He's probably had a heart attack by now.

i could mod it like that but i sure wouldnt want to play it.

i walk out and see a bad guy 10 feet away. i pull out my StG and fire off the whole mag. BOOM BOOM BOOM... the leaves r fallin off trees and birds r comin down from the sky, but the ally dude pulls out his mega accurate bar and shoots me.
or
i come up to an ally sniper not aware im there. i pull out my stg point it at his head and BOOM BOOM BOOM he scratches his head, pulls out his all-accurate allys fist and knocks me out with one blow.

hmmm...