WHEN WILL A KNOWLEDGEABLE PROGRAMMER/MODDER SURFACE?!?!?

Gen. Disarray

WHAT the fuck is up with these ww2 fps? Someone somewhere has got the idea that the mp40 and stg44 were sucessful weapons (and, omfg, superior to all others!!!!) beyond 5 yards or so ALL automatic fire is WAAAYYYYY to accurate. Even more so for the Axis weapons. These bonehead programmers seem to think a 9mm and 7.62mm assault have knockdown and penetration equal to or better (!?!) than a .45 acp or .30/06.. The best axis weapons produced were by far the Mauser 98's and the FG series paratroop weapons (which couldnt be mass produced at inception and saw little action? German superiority in fire arms existed solely in extreme close quarters (by virtue of every soldier issued a sidearm and sheer quantity of smgs available) and the MG34 (much like the thompson, too much a work of craftsmanship to be mass produced cheaply) MG42 (marginally superior to the Browning in all around performance and easier portability) WHEN WILL WE SEE A REAL REALISM MOD MADE BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING????[/code]

{1CAB}ThiRTeeN · 02-12-2003, 03:16 AM

ummmm....dude you are CRAZY! If you wanan get this acctual realism mod done why don't you do it? You seem to know a lot about hte weapons and such.

Gen. Disarray · 02-13-2003, 03:28 AM

Cause i dont know shit about programming or computers. I wish I could find a modder whos intersested in corresponing and feedback for a realistic mod.

Capt. Hiker · 02-14-2003, 12:30 AM

DUDE, its a game and if its too realistic, like your talking, it takes away from the gameplay eek: eek:

Jedi Marksman

[quote="Gen. Disarray":ba688]WHAT the fuck is up with these ww2 fps? Someone somewhere has got the idea that the mp40 and stg44 were sucessful weapons (and, omfg, superior to all others!!!!) beyond 5 yards or so ALL automatic fire is WAAAYYYYY to accurate. Even more so for the Axis weapons. These bonehead programmers seem to think a 9mm and 7.62mm assault have knockdown and penetration equal to or better (!?!) than a .45 acp or .30/06.. The best axis weapons produced were by far the Mauser 98's and the FG series paratroop weapons (which couldnt be mass produced at inception and saw little action? German superiority in fire arms existed solely in extreme close quarters (by virtue of every soldier issued a sidearm and sheer quantity of smgs available) and the MG34 (much like the thompson, too much a work of craftsmanship to be mass produced cheaply) MG42 (marginally superior to the Browning in all around performance and easier portability) WHEN WILL WE SEE A REAL REALISM MOD MADE BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING????[/code][/quote:ba688]

Calm down, dude. It's a game. It's not meant to immitate real life verbatim. Just have fun. biggrin:

GreenEggs&Pot

[quote="Gen. Disarray":75186]WHAT the fuck is up with these ww2 fps? Someone somewhere has got the idea that the mp40 and stg44 were sucessful weapons (and, omfg, superior to all others!!!!) beyond 5 yards or so ALL automatic fire is WAAAYYYYY to accurate. Even more so for the Axis weapons. These bonehead programmers seem to think a 9mm and 7.62mm assault have knockdown and penetration equal to or better (!?!) than a .45 acp or .30/06.. The best axis weapons produced were by far the Mauser 98's and the FG series paratroop weapons (which couldnt be mass produced at inception and saw little action? German superiority in fire arms existed solely in extreme close quarters (by virtue of every soldier issued a sidearm and sheer quantity of smgs available) and the MG34 (much like the thompson, too much a work of craftsmanship to be mass produced cheaply) MG42 (marginally superior to the Browning in all around performance and easier portability) WHEN WILL WE SEE A REAL REALISM MOD MADE BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING????[/code][/quote:75186]

AND FOR CHRIST SAKE, WHEN I SHOOT THE FUCKING NAZI WHY DOSNT HE SCREAM IN PAIN AND AGONY AND WHY DOSNT HE COUGH UP BLOOD? WHY DOES HE JUST FALL DOWN?!!! WHY CANT I GO UP TO HIS DYING BODY AND SHOOT HIM IN THE HEAD AND WATCH HIM BRAINS FALL OUT ALL OVER THE GROUND??!! YOUR SO RIGHT, THIS GAME SUCKS!!! [/sarcasm]

oOo:

Zoner · 02-17-2003, 09:19 AM

Man,
[img]http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/wedgie.jpg[/img]

Zone

02-17-2003, 09:23 AM

so, what you're saying is the german weapons should take 10+ hits to kill someone, and the allies 1?

well, it would certainly reduce stg whoring.

Gen. Disarray · 02-18-2003, 11:57 PM

Welllll.....I did get over excited there. Like I said I can appreciate the need for balance and gameplay certainly. BUT! I guess it drives me nuts with these wackos pushin "realism"mods, might as well call em "make it really good for my favorite (and or my misguided perception of a good) firearm mod. I dont see why it wouldnt be fun to make the game realistically rifle oriented, with the sprayers having an advantage at 10 minus yards or so. AND WHERE THE FUCK DID I SAY THE AXIS WEAPONS SHOULD TAKE 10 SHOTS TO THE ALLIES 1??? I GUARANTEE I SHOOT U WITH A GARAND OR A MAUSER IN THE GUT YOU WONT KNOW OR CARE. YOU HIDIN BEHIND A SOLID CORE DOOR ? STG 44 YOU MIGHT STAND A CHANCE, BAR YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE BEHIND TISSUE PAPER, THAT IS UNLESS I WAS SHOULDER FIRING THE BAR, OR WELL JUST USIN THE STG, CAUSE THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE IS WHERE THE FUCKERS POINTIN. (AFTER THE FIRST ROUND THAT IS) WEAKEST-MP40/P38 MIDDLE STG44 MOST POWERFUL, THE RIFLE ROUNDS AND BAR ARE A TOSSUP. Any one of them will kill ya deader n' shit.

Gen. Disarray · 02-19-2003, 12:03 AM

What they need (and im sure this wont appeal to the masses) is weapon jams, that would expose the auto fire. Not as well as having accuracy even in the ball park but good none the less. If the all the weapons (cept the kar and spring) had a jam variable, the game could be balanced, and the modders could really show the STG and MP40 for what they were ...Paperweights on a good day. (Yes its possible for a non-autoloader to jam, but due to ammo deformation or failure of the breech mechanism, virtually unheard of)

GreenEggs&Pot · 02-21-2003, 12:23 AM

But if for the SMG, if the bullets spray then wouldnt it just be like a automatic shotgun with a clip? I think they need to adjust the clip amout but that would make it unrealistic too

02-21-2003, 12:26 AM

here's a thought

mohaa is arcade. if you want realism go play dod.

Gen. Disarray · 02-21-2003, 02:43 AM

Green eggs and pot.......sometimes someone says something and dumbfounds me......I just have to sit back open mouthed and savor the insanity......dod autofire is also far too accurate by the way

Gen. Disarray · 02-21-2003, 02:47 AM

OKOK I can think of something to say. HOW can u POSSIBLY bring magazine (not technically a clip by the way) size into a discussion on how to make something realistic, thats not subjective. AND WHAT WERE U SMOKIN THAT BROUGHT A MAGAZINE FED SEMI-AUTO SHOTGUN INTO THE DISCUSSION??? And finally an absolute no to your idea an smg would bear no practical resemblence in its power, range, pattern while sprayin away to a shotgun also sprayin away.

redhawk_six · 02-21-2003, 05:33 PM

[quote="Gen. Disarray":9b445] AND WHERE THE FUCK DID I SAY THE AXIS WEAPONS SHOULD TAKE 10 SHOTS TO THE ALLIES 1??? I GUARANTEE I SHOOT U WITH A GARAND OR A MAUSER IN THE GUT YOU WONT KNOW OR CARE. YOU HIDIN BEHIND A SOLID CORE DOOR ? STG 44 YOU MIGHT STAND A CHANCE, BAR YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE BEHIND TISSUE PAPER, THAT IS UNLESS I WAS SHOULDER FIRING THE BAR, OR WELL JUST USIN THE STG, CAUSE THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE IS WHERE THE FUCKERS POINTIN. (AFTER THE FIRST ROUND THAT IS) WEAKEST-MP40/P38 MIDDLE STG44 MOST POWERFUL, THE RIFLE ROUNDS AND BAR ARE A TOSSUP. [/quote:9b445]

My friend, there is a button between the "Tab" and "Shift" key of the left hand side of the keyboard, it says "Caps Lock" on it, USE IT!!!!!

And next time you post, make sure the little light on the keyboard, the one that says something like "Caps" or "Caps Lock" under it, is off!!

And please stop complaining about realism in MOH, It's A Game! If you don't like it, get your mommy and daddy to drive you out to the computer store and buy you a diffrent game.