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Rannoch 05-31-2003 05:33 PM

Making a scooter that RIPS!
 
Allright, Im gonna make a scooter. That goes fast. I dont have to use the scooter in the pic, my neighbor has some welding equipment, so I can start from scratch if need be.

Im engine illiterate. How do I make the turny thingie on my engine turn my wheel? Do I need a tranny in one of these things? Or what? What kinda gears and/or sprockets do I need? Should I somehow use a chain to make the drive system (old bike chain?) Thanks!

[img]http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/drive.jpg[/img]
The drive thingie of the engine
[img]http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/scooterengine.jpg[/img]
The scooter and the engine together, at last!

05-31-2003 05:34 PM

attach the belt to the wheel, then crank the engine

how are you going to control throttle though?

or brakes?

lmao

Tripper 05-31-2003 05:36 PM

That's gonna be a bitch dealing with those wheels. I think you'll have to get out the welding equipment and start from scratch, cause that scooter frame won't be able to carry the weight of that motor, without being dangerous.

[]PanZeR 05-31-2003 06:41 PM

get a longer axel on the back

MrLevinstein 05-31-2003 07:37 PM

[quote="[]PanZeR":dc8a7]get a longer axel on the back[/quote:dc8a7]

Hes gonna need more that that
At least:
Increase the Width of the platform of where you put your feet.
Buy or Machine heavier and harder axles
Somehow make it so the motor actually drives the wheel
somehow balance front and rear
new braking system.
Make it so you can control the speed of the motor

I'm assuming that motor is electric start and not pull start?

05-31-2003 08:25 PM

NEIN, it's pull start - j00 can see teh pull handle

you'll never get that motor on that little scoot frame, where are you going to put your feet?
scrap the skinny ass scooter and start from absolute scratch

get yourself some metal tubing, angle iron, super strength axels (not to mention super strength bearings) and an idea how to put it together!

ask your dad or maybe even somebody who has more of an idea than you do....

there are some diehard peeps over here http://www.hardforums.com
you need a payed for e-mail account to register, they don't spam you so its ok
find a thread there and post your unthoughtout idea, there will be many flames and many many great ideas.... it'll be worth your while

ninty 05-31-2003 08:42 PM

Theres no way that will ever work dude.

How will you control throttle and brake?

How big is the engine anyway? Looks pretty small. If your putting a 150lb guy and trying to get a shitty little engine to push you around, think again.

Your biggest problem is with drive from the engine to the wheels. You'll never get it to work. You need a proper adapter to come out of the engine, then attach a sproket with a chain, to then attach to the the rear wheels. If you expect to weld something to the motor, forget it. It won't hold up, espically with no welding experience. To get a nice weld isn't that easy. Trust me. And what type of metals are you using and what type of welder? There are some welders that cannot weld certain materials. If your neighbour has an arc welder and your not using aluminum, then your screwed.

MrLevinstein 05-31-2003 08:44 PM

[quote="Da_Bian":b7d3e]NEIN, it's pull start - j00 can see teh pull handle
[/quote:b7d3e]

Yeah, i see it now. If he does manage to get the fram to work he's gonna have a hell of time controlling engine choke.

Simo Häyhä 05-31-2003 08:44 PM

5c0073r h4x

ninty 05-31-2003 08:46 PM

I can see now you took that engine off a weed wacker. I doubt that will push you around. You'll just blow the engine.

Rannoch 05-31-2003 09:04 PM

Engine sucks anyway. Goped.com only has like 20-40cc engines, and the wacker is probably 25+

Ill ask some more questions around here and get some materials.

Rannoch 05-31-2003 09:04 PM

Engine sucks anyway. Goped.com only has like 20-40cc engines, and the wacker is probably 25+

Ill ask some more questions around here and get some materials.

Eight Ace 05-31-2003 09:20 PM

Why not simply put the motor back on the weed-wacker, place a stroller wheel on the spinning
shaft, hinge that to the scoots footrest...and hey presto!...the bitchenest Outrigger Tri-Scoot on th' block!! eek:

...it has more chance of working than your current plan...

Bazooka_Joe 05-31-2003 09:23 PM

I'm almost certian that motorized scooters are illeagal in NY. I want one with like a motorcycle engine. evil:

Rannoch 05-31-2003 10:37 PM

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":f2003]I'm almost certian that motorized scooters are illeagal in NY. I want one with like a motorcycle engine. evil:[/quote:f2003]

I have a few of those... a 400 cc 36 hp MONSTER! w00t! Although its incredibly heavy...

Anyhow... lets get some posative ideas on how to get the power to the wheels! And frame design, etc.

Airborne Butters 05-31-2003 10:42 PM

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":e5353]I'm almost certian that motorized scooters are illeagal in NY. I want one with like a motorcycle engine. evil:[/quote:e5353]

or how about a motorcycle.... oOo:

05-31-2003 11:37 PM

when i was a kid i put a 750cc motorcycle engine on a go cart. it was pretty badass. had to reinforce the frame because of the extra weight. weilded a shift rod along side the cart . i have no idea how fast it would actually go. at around 60 mph it started to shudder pretty bad so i had to back off. i reduced the size of the sproket on the back wheel so it had a pretty wild hole shot. had to create small wheelie bars on the back and weight the front just to keep the wheels on the ground. spent a lot of money replacing tires. this thing would burn a set of tires up in a flash.

MrLevinstein 06-01-2003 07:21 AM

[quote="Bazooka_Joe":e41e6]I'm almost certian that motorized scooters are illeagal in NY. I want one with like a motorcycle engine. evil:[/quote:e41e6]

Nope, I'm almost positive they arn't, see em all the time. That motor won't drive you, there's a huge difference between a motor made to spin a 6 once plastic blade 250 mph, and a engine made to crank a fly wheel hard enough to power the scooter with a 160+ man on top of it. If you can get this to work especially with little experience that would be awsome.

Rannoch 06-01-2003 04:03 PM

Got an idea from a friend: Mount the engine above the wheel, with a bigger wheel directly connected to the engine, right off the the side of the rear wheel. IE, a third wheel, to drive. Probably a pnuematic or solid rubber one, bigger than the others... wonder how that would work? ed:

[Spec Ops] Jack Ruby 06-01-2003 04:25 PM

Well I am not sure but this site may help, they try making crazy things , theres lots of notes on gears, sprockets, drives etc..

http://www.gizmology.net/index.htm

check out the little tank they made, very cool

http://www.gizmology.net/tanks.htm

Milla 06-01-2003 04:25 PM

My scooter ownz yours

[img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~anvile/random/owned.jpg[/img]

geRV 06-01-2003 04:40 PM

[quote="Capt. John Miller":d90ea]My scooter ownz yours

[img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~anvile/random/owned.jpg[/img][/quote:d90ea]

Wow......2 wheels, sure thats fun to drive.

And whys it look as though it has a mount for a seat on it... eek:

Milla 06-01-2003 04:44 PM

No idea, but it has a fucking radiator lol

Rannoch 06-02-2003 07:39 PM

[quote="Airborne Butters":a6eef][quote="Bazooka_Joe":a6eef]I'm almost certian that motorized scooters are illeagal in NY. I want one with like a motorcycle engine. evil:[/quote:a6eef]

or how about a motorcycle.... oOo:[/quote:a6eef]

Actually, I already have a bike biggrin:
[img]http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/xr400.jpg[/img]

Cpt. Obvious 06-02-2003 07:55 PM

is that an xr 100

Infernal_ 06-02-2003 08:21 PM

[quote="Cpt. Obvious":f9f31]is that an xr 100[/quote:f9f31]

appears to be, yes i used to own one

Rannoch 06-02-2003 09:42 PM

A 100? No... no no no! Its a 400! It RIPS! New pipe, reworked suspension, big ole skidplate, lots of stuff! :)

Rannoch 06-02-2003 09:44 PM

[img]http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/XR_100R_red.jpg[/img]

Rannoch 06-02-2003 09:44 PM

THAT is a 100... to bad there isnt an edit button


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