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seems a lot hate bush. he's not good at speeches and has lied. but why can't cany of you get it through your thick stupid head that without him you'll be facing a very big threat from the middle east. bush didn't start the war on terrorism, osama brought it to us. if we hadn't goen over to iraq, think about how many more civilians would get torturned and killed. why did our soldiers fight in ww2? to stop dictatorship.

im surprised how weak americ has become over the years. dman hippies and their anti-war crap. if we don't strike now, in the future they enemy will be a lot stronger and we're going to have to send our troops against a much larger enemy, an enemy we should of destryoyed when they were still weaker.

anyways it's thanksgiving. thank your president for not letting the terrorist punks get to us.

Any president would have struck at terrorists after 9-11,
the problem with Bush is he's not half the diplomat that his predecessors were, and unlike his father he did not suceed at building a large coalition against Iraq, so its just us and the UK (all the useless countries like Lativa who are "helping" are sending about a platoon of poorly trained troops each oOo: )

[quote="Sgt Stryker":a5fff]Any president would have struck at terrorists after 9-11,
the problem with Bush is he's not half the diplomat that his predecessors were, and unlike his father he did not suceed at building a large coalition against Iraq, so its just us and the UK (all the useless countries like Lativa who are "helping" are sending about a platoon of poorly trained troops each oOo: )[/quote:a5fff]
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"A Platoon of Poorly trained troops"? Dude, We sent over the SAS, which shit all over your precious USMC.
Also, we sent over a reasonable force from both the RAN and the RAAF.
In addition, we've made ourselves a bigger Terrorist target for helping you blokes in your wars around the Middle East, so, yeah, give us a bit more credit than referring to us as "One of the useless countries", eh? We did our share in Iraq, don't worry about that. hake:

[quote="Captain Wilkins":b226b][quote="Sgt Stryker":b226b]Any president would have struck at terrorists after 9-11,
the problem with Bush is he's not half the diplomat that his predecessors were, and unlike his father he did not suceed at building a large coalition against Iraq, so its just us and the UK (all the useless countries like Lativa who are "helping" are sending about a platoon of poorly trained troops each oOo: )[/quote:b226b]
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"A Platoon of Poorly trained troops"? Dude, We sent over the SAS, which shit all over your precious USMC.
Also, we sent over a reasonable force from both the RAN and the RAAF.
In addition, we've made ourselves a bigger Terrorist target for helping you blokes in your wars around the Middle East, so, yeah, give us a bit more credit than referring to us as "One of the useless countries", eh? We did our share in Iraq, don't worry about that. hake:[/quote:b226b]

when I said UK I meant the commonwealth troops too
no insult intended whatsoever

you guys did a wonderful job alongside Doug MacArthur in WW2 and I would never intentionally insult the Aussie tropps or Australia

The war on terror and the Iraq war had nothing to do with each other.

WWII was fought because Hitler decided to invade Poland. I don't think we had much of a choice back then. Saddam wasn't trying to take over the world or pressing his ideals on other countries. There are many countries around the world that are just as bad if not worse than Iraq was.

Pre-emptive strike is not a very good idea either. Thats fine if the US wants to protect itself and rid threats. But what stops Israle from tearing the shit out of palestine? Or N Korea taking on south korea, or Iran marching into Pakistan or Turkmenistan? Once the US does these things, they forefit the power to tell others not to do so.

I'm glad Canada didn't get in on the war war in iraq for two reasons, my uncle, could have been shipped and now I hear of threats against London and all, Canada doesn't need that shit.

[quote="Sgt Stryker":c0196][quote="Captain Wilkins":c0196][quote="Sgt Stryker":c0196]Any president would have struck at terrorists after 9-11,
the problem with Bush is he's not half the diplomat that his predecessors were, and unlike his father he did not suceed at building a large coalition against Iraq, so its just us and the UK (all the useless countries like Lativa who are "helping" are sending about a platoon of poorly trained troops each oOo: )[/quote:c0196]
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"A Platoon of Poorly trained troops"? Dude, We sent over the SAS, which shit all over your precious USMC.
Also, we sent over a reasonable force from both the RAN and the RAAF.
In addition, we've made ourselves a bigger Terrorist target for helping you blokes in your wars around the Middle East, so, yeah, give us a bit more credit than referring to us as "One of the useless countries", eh? We did our share in Iraq, don't worry about that. hake:[/quote:c0196]

when I said UK I meant the commonwealth troops too
no insult intended whatsoever

you guys did a wonderful job alongside Doug MacArthur in WW2 and I would never intentionally insult the Aussie tropps or Australia[/quote:c0196]

No Probs, Dude. I just tend to get a tad protective of my country, is all cool:

im glad we went into baghdad, i couldnt sleep at night w/o wondering if the republican guard was going to storm in my house and kill me. war on terror took a fuckin U turn when we decided to go into iraq and occupy it. we should have just blown the shit out of saddam w/o letting him know we were coming.

u should watch the news,its palestine whos attacking israle,israle is just fighting back to keep their country safe.

Bush..... annoy:

I thought what he did was right, after 9-11. NOT IN IRAQ

Also, SAS = rock:

palestine is a different situation. the israelis have a right to defend themselves from all the possilble dangers. it just takes one bomber with a bag of chemicals to ruin their day.

You are right mad.

yeah bush is stupid. Take his recent trip to baghdad for instance. HE was there for all of 1 hour which he spent in a hangar at the airport so he didnt have ot get too close ot the action. Dude.... hake: As for peegoo you just a stupid fool. you will learn one day that inciting things liek this makes you hated.

im just curious do brits have a diffrent language besides english,not a formal kind but like a slang type?,u know wat i mean?

Maybe you should go back to school and understand what i'm saying.

Would an invasion of Palestine be justified currenty? I doubt it. So if Bush can go into Iraq to wipe out that country, what is stopping the Isralies from going into palestine and wiping out them?

If the palestinians launched a large scale 9-11 type attack in which 3000 israelis died, then an israeli invasion and occupation of palastinian lands would be completly justified. When 9-11 happened we were caught with our pants at our ankles, completly unprepared. The adminstration took alot of heat, for not taking apropriate action to prevent the attack (even though clinton had numerous oprotunities to capture bin ladin and never acted on it). We are through playing games now, all countries and organization that are a threat to us, are being targeted for action. Iraq was just the first country to go in this war, other countries such as iran and syria will be next if they dont submit to inspections and stop funding terrorism. And don't think that any president would be doing what bush is doing in waging this global war on terrorism, hes had to take a stand on many issues that allienated alot of people and even close allies...but in the long run it was necessary, if a democrat would have been in office our only response to 9-11 would have been cruise missle strikes, air raids, and maybe some commando operations against al-queda bases in afganistan, you don't believe me? Look at our responses after the first world trade center bombing (none) , the al-queda sponsered embassy bombings (air strikes that ended up blowing up a pharmacy so they were stopped), and the al-queda attack on the uss cole (no response) all these events occured during clintons presidency and they only fueled the terrorist idea that america was soft and wouldnt respond to terror, and would leave as soon as their men started dying...bush's response suprised all of them, now the leaders of these organizations are in hiding and in fear of their life, sure their subordinates are rallying people to fight against us...but its time we made a stand and fight this battle, to the end.

we have wales which speak a different language!

and different places across the country have different "accents" - some may call this slang!

as for the war... i think it wasnt our or the US's place to go and invade iraq, it all seems that it evolved from Asama bin laden... bush couldnt catch him so he decided to go after sadam husain! <-- thats my opinion anyway!

though i do respect him for going to Iraq for thanksgiving to greet the troops!

[quote="Cpl. Eames":26620]If the palestinians launched a large scale 9-11 type attack in which 3000 israelis died, then an israeli invasion and occupation of palastinian lands would be completly justified. When 9-11 happened we were caught with our pants at our ankles, completly unprepared. The adminstration took alot of heat, for not taking apropriate action to prevent the attack (even though clinton had numerous oprotunities to capture bin ladin and never acted on it). We are through playing games now, all countries and organization that are a threat to us, are being targeted for action. Iraq was just the first country to go in this war, other countries such as iran and syria will be next if they dont submit to inspections and stop funding terrorism. And don't think that any president would be doing what bush is doing in waging this global war on terrorism, hes had to take a stand on many issues that allienated alot of people and even close allies...but in the long run it was necessary, if a democrat would have been in office our only response to 9-11 would have been cruise missle strikes, air raids, and maybe some commando operations against al-queda bases in afganistan, you don't believe me? Look at our responses after the first world trade center bombing (none) , the al-queda sponsered embassy bombings (air strikes that ended up blowing up a pharmacy so they were stopped), and the al-queda attack on the uss cole (no response) all these events occured during clintons presidency and they only fueled the terrorist idea that america was soft and wouldnt respond to terror, and would leave as soon as their men started dying...bush's response suprised all of them, now the leaders of these organizations are in hiding and in fear of their life, sure their subordinates are rallying people to fight against us...but its time we made a stand and fight this battle, to the end.[/quote:26620]

Listen. Were not talking about 9/11. Were talking about the Iraq war. you have to seperate the two. Saddam did not attack the US on September 11, 2001.

If israle got attacked an 3000 people died, then yes its justified. but if we look at the example of Iraq not provoking anyone at all, and the US attacking, that is not justified. If Israle decided tomorrow to inved palestine, that would not be justified. But they could if they wanted and the US wouldn't beable to say stop because they did the exact same thing with Iraq.

You also talked about inspections. Uhh...wern't there inspections going on in Iraq and then all of a sudden Pres. Bush decided to tell them to get out and bomb the shit out of Iraq? I think so. Saddam didn't kick the inspectors out, Bush did so he could attack Iraq.

9/11 and Iraq are unrelated.

i hope the isralies do wipe out the palestines,maybe us going to iraq was wrong,but when ur own streets arnt even safe from sucide bombers i think u should attack

That makes sense.

Hmm...they want to kill us so instead of trying to work our problems out, lets just kill all of them.

Why don't we put that into practice in school systems, and law enforcement? Lets just wipe out anyone who looks at us the wrong way.

I truly hope the majority of people don't think that way, because if they do, then the human race is fucked.

ok,when i said wipe them out i didnt mean every singla one,just the ones who have connections with the groups that r bombing isreal,and how is that not a good reason to attack? killing citizens is an act of war, i dont know why they didnt go sooner

ok,i didnt mean kill them all,just the ones who are connected with the groups attacking isreal,and y dont they have the right to invade?,they were killing innocent isreal citizens thats an act of war,oh and they tried to have peace but did it work?? hmm NO!

[quote="Cpl. Eames"][ The adminstration took alot of heat, for not taking apropriate action to prevent the attack (even though clinton had numerous oprotunities to capture bin ladin and never acted on it).

dude what are you talking about. clinton sent missles to a place where he thought bin laden was hiding out (kinda like bush looking for saddam). after the 1993 attack on the WTC, Clinton got the arrests of ramzi yousef, abdul hakim murad and wali kham amin shah. clinton was in office for only 38 days when the WTC was hit the first time, but no one blamed Bush sr for this. why do you blame clinton for 9/11? Bush didnt have 38 days, he had 9 fuckin months to react to intelligence coming in from the CIA and FBI and what did he do?? HE TOOK A FUCKIN VACATION AFTER A FEW MONTHS OF OFFICE!! if there is any president to blame for 9/11 (which im not saying there is) it would be Bush, he fell asleep at the wheel after choking on a fucking pretzel.

welll.... lets start with the obvious. the man cant pronounce, spell, read 4 shit. our guy on the proverbial button should have a minimum of a highschool education. Next, the war in Iraq.... simply put, he just wanted oil. but since he needed forign help he made up stuff about this being a war about terrorism... wrong its a war about how much gas u can squeeze out of a single country. Finally, he stole the election... via the fault in our government called the electoral college which can be swayed fairly easily. well. all in all our president should be A= shot or B= tossed out. i know that if he get re elected then im starting a marxist revolution. its not pretty but hell, its better than this :\

Cant you see wait nevermind i forgot what i was going to say. oOo:

"Next, the war in Iraq.... simply put, he just wanted oil"


Why do people spout out this stuff when they don't even have a clue? If he just wanted the oil we would have lifted sanctions and bought it. Would be far cheaper than waging a war to get it don't you think?

[quote="Tool-back":76de9]"Next, the war in Iraq.... simply put, he just wanted oil"


Why do people spout out this stuff when they don't even have a clue? If he just wanted the oil we would have lifted sanctions and bought it. Would be far cheaper than waging a war to get it don't you think?[/quote:76de9]

yeah but remember. we are dealing with an asshole here. and iraq hated us. :\

Iraq didn't hate us. Saddam and his regime did. Seen the videos and pictures of the Iraqis dancing around the American troops? Not saying all Iraqis welcomed us, but the majority are thankful.

Wow. A lot of people here don't have a fucking clue about any of this... hake:

[quote="Tool-back":11a94]Iraq didn't hate us. Saddam and his regime did. Seen the videos and pictures of the Iraqis dancing around the American troops? Not saying all Iraqis welcomed us, but the majority are thankful.[/quote:11a94]

According to CNN, at least. And I'll bet you that Al-Jazeera says that the Iraqi people have just traded an Iraqi dictator for an American one. If you can serperate the truth from the bullshit in this Propaganda-fest, then you're either a genius or full of shit. rolleyes:

The truth is there are videos of Iraqis rejoicing in the streets as the American troops walk by. Seeing the videos let's you know that the news copmanys are not makin everything up. Like I said, not all of them feel that way, but it definitly makes it worth it to see the ones that are happy and thankful.

What about the vidoes the media showed after 9/11? It showed people rejoicing, but infact it was for a parade or something three years earlier being passed off as people dancing for the attacks. Truth is you have no idea what the media shows and doesn't show. What their allowed to show and what is true.

[quote="redhawk_six":959b3]Wow. A lot of people here don't have a fucking clue about any of this... hake:[/quote:959b3]

[quote="redhawk_six":7abb2]Wow. A lot of people here don't have a fucking clue about any of this... hake:[/quote:7abb2]

fill us in on your opinion then. eek:

Why bother, I'll be flamed and called an idiot by all the brain-less bush lovers. Besides, most of you won't know what I'm talking about since you get all your info on the subject from the 5-o-clock news and don't bother to do any of your own research.

Having a mature discussion of politics on AA.Com is like trying to snipe with a shot gun, it ain't happening.

[quote="redhawk_six":f4385]Why bother, I'll be flamed and called an idiot by all the brain-less bush lovers. Besides, most of you won't know what I'm talking about since you get all your info on the subject from the 5-o-clock news and don't bother to do any of your own research.

Having a mature discussion of politics on AA.Com is like trying to snipe with a shot gun, it ain't happening.[/quote:f4385]

there's a few of us that are open minded, I would be willing to see what you have to say.

Ninty9 videos aren't the only place I'm getting information. Troops there is a pretty good source. When they say that people are happy they're there and seeing them makes it worth it, I believe them.

Are you referring to the parade in Palestine? I believe they were rejoicing after the attacks because Yasser Arafat made a speech shortly after saying that he hoped the actions of a few individuals wouldnt make us come to the conclusion that all Palestinians felt that way.